On Friday, 28 February 2014, Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]> wrote:
> Stephen made a point to me in a dev meet-up at FOSDEM that he likes > Cucumber in that tests are more readable (even to developers), even though > he was sympathetic to the overhead for authors of tests. > > > So I think I am going to leave them alone. Cucumber has another nice > characteristic that tests that depend on not-yet-ported steps will be > marked as pending, so I can see how far off I am from getting back to the > parity. > > And yes, you will get the ability to write tests in plain-old JUnit4 tests > (which I consider the porting from writing tests in rspec.) Personally, I'd > be writing tests in plain-old JUnit4 tests on Groovy. > > I'm curious to hear from other users on their take on BDD/Cucumber vs > JUnit. > > I said I like how they are more readable ... Didn't say I like them at all Good junit4 test names give the same effect... Just nobody stops you calling a junit test "smokes" and stuffing chock full of asserts. A good junit test should limit itself to 1-2 asserts... When you hit integration tests, the need to control execution order with "method per assertion" favours testng... I suspect that java8 syntax improvement may free us more though If I have a failing cucumber test to debug when trying to understand how a change of mine elsewhere has resulted in the side effect of the test failing... The descriptive nature of cucumber makes it easier to determine if the break is intended or not.... Does not help me fix the test if an intended break though > > > 2014-02-28 11:06 GMT-08:00 oliver gondža > <[email protected]<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > >: > >> Mostly same story here with the exception I have never felt comfortable >> or productive working in ruby. >> >> Btw, you have expressed dislike towards Cucumber/BDD style features in >> the past. Can we take this opportunity to get rid of it as well? It should >> not mean significantly more work and if it can bring new people in, I think >> it might be worth to try. >> >> -- >> oliver >> > > > > -- > Kohsuke Kawaguchi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > [email protected]<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jenkinsci-dev%[email protected]');> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Sent from my phone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
