Thanks Tyler. I now understand what you mean about the API structure. On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:46:45 PM UTC+1, R Tyler Croy wrote: > > (replies inline) > > On Tue, 27 May 2014, Tom Fennelly wrote: > > > Did you ever commit your experiments to GitHub? I'd be keen to see what > > you did and would also be keen to hear your thoughts on the API and it's > > suitability. I started a related thread (wasn't aware of this one until > > now) at > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/jenkinsci-dev/zDaX4yiWLLw > > > This fell off my queue of "things I have time to work on" so I never got > around > to it. > > The biggest challenge to the API work IMO is that it's currently not > RESTful, > and is quite difficult to make RESTful in a way that a Backbone collection > can > easily consume from. > > Part of the challenge is that Jenkins' datamodel is much more of a tree > than > most front-end toolkits are familiar with, but when you add added > functionality > from the plugins, modeling becomes extra tricky. > > > > I'm still of the opinion that a simple Backbone app + basic REST API > exposing > jobs, builds, basic details, would be more than enough for a large > percentage > of use-cases. Putting my code where my mouth is, isn't something I've had > time > for unfortunately. > > > > > On Monday, February 25, 2013 4:09:53 AM UTC, R Tyler Croy wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 23 Feb 2013, Kohsuke Kawaguchi wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks for your thoughts. > > > > > > > > I actually think the abstraction behind how we expose data via JSON > is > > > > fundamentally sane --- it's basically the same object graph that the > > > server > > > > has, > > > > > > > > I think the problem you are seeing is that the default behavior of > > > > "traverse this graph depth-first to the depth 1" isn't particularly > > > useful. > > > > Instead, you should use the tree parameter to select what portions > of > > > the > > > > object graph you want to retrieve. > > > > > > > > I've been meaning to add the object graph navigator, and I think > > > something > > > > like that makes it clearer what the underlying data model is. > > > > > > > > > Kohsuke and I spent a good deal of time talking in-person about this > while > > > we > > > were at SCaLE11x this past weekend in LA. > > > > > > We've got a bit of a disagreement on how "suitable" the current API > > > support is > > > for building a JavaScript application atop Jenkins might be (for the > > > record, I > > > maintain that it is /not/ suitable :-P). > > > > > > Kohsuke brought up a good point about plugins, not regarding extending > of > > > the > > > view, but rather how plugins would be plugging data into model objects > > > such as > > > "Build" or "Job" for the API. I'm not entirely certain the right > direction > > > on > > > this, I'm hoping to find a good middle ground between the current API > > > approach > > > of plugins mixing data directly into models and providing their own > API > > > end-points separately which could lead to a plethora of HTTP requests > from > > > the > > > UI app. > > > > > > I think the next step for my experimenting, which I'll have some time > for > > > next > > > weekend, will be to sketch out what I think would be most suitable for > an > > > API > > > after conferring with some of the guys I work with (this is literally > what > > > my > > > team does). > > > > > > > > > I'll update this thread once I have something on GitHub worth taking a > > > gander > > > at. > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > - R. Tyler Croy > > > -------------------------------------- > > > Code: https://github.com/rtyler > > > Chatter: https://twitter.com/agentdero > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > - R. Tyler Croy > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Code: <https://github.com/rtyler> > Chatter: <https://twitter.com/agentdero> > > % gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 3F51E16F > ------------------------------------------------------ >
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