So I need to hook when job is opened for configuration and when build is 
started -  correct? build started can be handled by RunListener, what about 
opening job configuration page - I can't find a way yet

пятница, 1 августа 2014 г., 10:08:55 UTC+4 пользователь [email protected] 
написал:
>
> Stephen, you are right - I was not doing thing right -  I have changed the 
> plugin name a little bit - this caused above mentioned issue. now I have 
> returned old name and everything is fine
>
> thinking on how to replace all jobs traversal.....
>
> On Thursday, July 31, 2014 6:40:41 PM UTC+4, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 31 July 2014 15:27, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> thanks again, Stephen. Could  I ask more questions? excerpt from ""
>>> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Marking+a+new+plugin+version+as+incompatible+with+older+versions
>>>  
>>> says "*Hudson has an automatic data format upgrade capability*" - what 
>>> does it mean?
>>>
>>
>> readResolve() and the fact that XStream doesn't care about matching the 
>> serialVersionUid
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> I have one more issue with my final solution - after plugin update at 
>>> runtime all fields in job configurations appear empty - after restart they 
>>> all are filled  correctly - should I force some kind of job reloading or 
>>> something?
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like you are not doing thing right.
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> thanks in advance
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:55:04 PM UTC+4, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>
>>>> I worry about the startup time scanning all jobs... there can be 1000's 
>>>> of them... better if you can have something that kicks in when the job is 
>>>> being saved... as that way people can revert your upgrade if there is 
>>>> something wrong without loosing data.
>>>>
>>>> Oh and whatever approach you take, remember to set the 
>>>> compatibleSinceVersion to the first version with the new data layout to 
>>>> give people the scary warning that they never read correctly
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On 31 July 2014 13:47, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Finally I have ended with following solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. add removed fields and mark them as transient
>>>>> 2. register static method with @Initializer(after = 
>>>>> InitMilestone.JOB_LOADED)
>>>>> 3. for each job do check whether new job property exists if not create 
>>>>> new one and move transient fields to it and then add new job property to 
>>>>> the job
>>>>>
>>>>> does it go? what do you think guys?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2014 2:21:05 PM UTC+4, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Stephen. nice approach. but what to do if I just moved some 
>>>>>> fields from one job property to another new one (not swapping them 
>>>>>> entirely)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 6:36:30 PM UTC+4, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that you need to be swapping like for like... you can swap one 
>>>>>>> Publisher for another Publisher, but you cannot swap a Publisher for a 
>>>>>>> JobProperty
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 29 July 2014 15:35, Stephen Connolly <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are swapping one JobProperty for another just have 
>>>>>>>> readResolve return the correctly configured new JobProperty, e.g. see 
>>>>>>>> similar https://github.com/jenkinsci/cloudbees-deployer-plug
>>>>>>>> in/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jenkins/plugins/cloudbees/
>>>>>>>> CloudbeesPublisher.java#L102
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 29 July 2014 14:25, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks, slide. I have already gone through it. but I can't figure 
>>>>>>>>> out the final solution of issue - 
>>>>>>>>> so I can mark fields as transient and check their values at 
>>>>>>>>> readResolve, what then? how to move these values to new job property?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> вторник, 29 июля 2014 г., 16:36:08 UTC+4 пользователь slide 
>>>>>>>>> написал:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This page, [1], has some good tips.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> slide
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1 - https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Hint+on+retain
>>>>>>>>>> ing+backward+compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:30 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Hi, everyone. Could you please advice me what to do at the 
>>>>>>>>>>> following case:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have one JobProperty at the old version of plugin. after some 
>>>>>>>>>>> refactoring I have created another one job property and moved 
>>>>>>>>>>> attributes 
>>>>>>>>>>> from old job property to new one.
>>>>>>>>>>> the issue is how to upgrade old job configurations to new one 
>>>>>>>>>>> seamlessly?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks in advance
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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