> On Jul 26, 2015, at 22:50, Mark Waite <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm confident Kohsuke and others don't fork unless they see it as the best > way to solve the problem and deliver good value to Jenkins users. I believe > a fork is usually a response to a gap. > > The SVNKit example is one that made Hudson (Jenkins) so compelling for me > from the very beginning of Hudson(Jenkins). Hudson support for Subversion > worked well, whether or not the team maintaining SVNKit at that time had a > full or complete solution to the problem. I think the fork was done to > benefit me as a user so that I could have a working, integrated, pure Java > subversion implementation. I wasn't required to install or configure > Subversion on my Windows slave machines. Yes, that focus on users made it > harder for developers later, but I think that focus on users was part of what > brought Jenkins to being installed on over 100 000 instances. > > Since the attempt to port to the latest HTMLUnit was challenging, I suspect > that means there were significant gaps between what was needed for Jenkins > development and what HTMLUnit was providing at the time of the fork. > > Mark Waite The question is whether this changes were proposed to upstream or it was an attempt to save the time that ends with _more_ time consumption for other people. > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 9:32 AM Tom Fennelly <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I spent a while trying to replace the forked HtmlUnit with HtmlUnit 2.17 (PR > #1774 <https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/1774>). I've parked it for > now. I was just running into one issue after another. > > On 26 July 2015 at 11:25, nicolas de loof <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > As long as such a hack is a way to quickly get a fix / feature while a pull > request is waiting for approval I'm fine with that, but when this ends with > svnkit-like maintenance hell I'm -1 > > > Le dim. 26 juil. 2015 12:10, Kanstantsin Shautsou <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit : > KK likes forking libraries to add some hacks, ask him. > > > On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 11:16:14 PM UTC+3, Tom Fennelly wrote: > Anyone have an idea? I'm hoping there was a really good reason, otherwise I > think I might cry. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/885ae71a-39e7-4c48-a78b-44acb5c970a7%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/885ae71a-39e7-4c48-a78b-44acb5c970a7%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CA%2BbPaoJYZZDayFo6Ynh84Gsed_Jr0q5FAjHJ%2BpGO7D8GuErLRw%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CA%2BbPaoJYZZDayFo6Ynh84Gsed_Jr0q5FAjHJ%2BpGO7D8GuErLRw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/jenkinsci-dev/woLn-ubRGkY/unsubscribe > <https://groups.google.com/d/topic/jenkinsci-dev/woLn-ubRGkY/unsubscribe>. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAO49JtEV2K7TJK8NvGGU9PuCLy7%3DgAGqspSS%3DEUrgs6Wz%3D_HsQ%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/CAO49JtEV2K7TJK8NvGGU9PuCLy7%3DgAGqspSS%3DEUrgs6Wz%3D_HsQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>.
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