Cough cough ahem my scalability framework might do the job... If I can
remember where I put that code (let's you script setting up a Jenkins with
slaves, plugins, jobs, folders, etc... Can even fire the whole thing up on
AWS too... Then I got distracted again... I wish I could keep focus!)

On Friday 9 October 2015, Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]> wrote:

> OK, this is probably something someone should start as a plugin.
>
> IIUC, you are taking the idea of the Job DSL plugin and then extending it
> to the system configuration, which I think is sensible.
>
> 2015-10-07 13:05 GMT-07:00 Baptiste Mathus <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>:
>
>> Another idea I'll dump here. it's still a bit fluffy, but anyway.
>>
>> I think that with the config-management/devops trend, it would be a good
>> thing that Jenkins can really be configured from scratch through (most
>> simple possible) CLI/API calls. It's currently possible but requires a
>> quite high-level knowledge of Jenkins internals to achieve (groovy scripts,
>> and so on).
>>
>> For the jobs part, IMO things like the Job DSL Plugin to handle job
>> versioning and durable management are great. And that would be great to
>> have an equivalent for the instance.
>> Something like a high-level language (say DSL) to describe the server
>> configuration.config itself.
>>
>> Maybe this is not something necessarily breaking things, hence not
>> necessarily related to 2.0, but perhaps some contract/interface could be
>> introduced in plugins to kind of standardize that discovery and be able to
>> offer a standard API to configure Jenkins?
>>
>> The area to handle off the top of my head:
>> * Core configuration (slaves, tools...)
>> * Plugins to install (see also
>> https://github.com/jenkinsci/docker/blob/master/README.md#installing-more-tools
>> for reference/example)
>> * Plugins config
>> * Jobs
>>
>> My 2 cents
>>
>> 2015-10-07 19:39 GMT+02:00 Kohsuke Kawaguchi <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>:
>>
>>> Right, I remember looking at DotCi and thinking that the way it moved
>>> the storage to mongodb points toward an abstraction we can build.
>>>
>>> Similar hook already exists for artifacts, and then we can provide
>>> auxiliary BLOB store for plugins that write random bits of data under
>>> builds, jobs, etc.
>>>
>>> Over time we can move things one by one to the BLOB store like that,
>>> then at that point we have filesystem free Jenkins.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-10-06 11:18 GMT-07:00 Surya Gaddipati <[email protected]
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>:
>>>
>>>> Regarding backend solution. We use DotCi and store all builds/logs in
>>>> mongodb.( Still experimenting how to properly store logs in the db, but we
>>>> have it working on staging).
>>>>
>>>> The only things on disks are plugins and folder config.xml ( because of
>>>> this issue https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/1762, jenkins
>>>> deletes anything not on disk from memory ). I need to spend time to fix the
>>>> issue in jenkins properly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Once that is done. We can have things like, deploying on heroku , true
>>>> load balancing with multiple masters.
>>>>
>>>> One more thing that is preventing from from jenkins from being used in
>>>> any serious installations is heavily thread locked Queue implementation. We
>>>> are having to do strange workarounds with our jenkins because it
>>>> threadlocks under even medium loads ( I saw this mentioned in google's
>>>> slides for JUC too, curious what their solution was ) .
>>>>
>>>> An extension point for queue would be great so we can store queue in
>>>> redis or something.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Surya
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