I don’t agree on that; backup, restore, history and adjusting fields (e.g. via script) will not be as easy anymore… Domi
> On 24 Oct 2015, at 15:40, Kanstantsin Shautsou <[email protected]> > wrote: > > -1, DBs are used everywhere and good API with good library should solve such > problems. > U think you can create FS DB under this layer for such requirements. But > first of all jenkins should have abstraction layer (API) for any activities. >> On Oct 24, 2015, at 15:24, domi <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> Yes, and that's also the reason why I think Jenkins should not get a >> database backend for any configuration but only for build results and >> tracking >> Domi >> >>> On 24.10.2015, at 12:37, Christopher Orr <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> It seems they're talking about both system configuration and job >>> configuration — in the next section, talking about Travis, they refer to >>> keeping job config in SCM (via `.travis.yml`) as a good thing. >>> >>> >>>> On 23/10/15 23:39, Richard Bywater wrote: >>>> My impression was that they were talking about system configuration >>>> which presumably isn't touched in the areas you mention? >>>> >>>> Richard. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 10:13 pm Jesse Glick <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:53 AM, [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>>>> They have some points compared to jerkins: >>>> http://concourse.ci/concourse-vs.html#jenkins >>>> <http://concourse.ci/concourse-vs.html#jenkins> >>>>> ..specially: >>>>> - every configuration must be backed in a version control system >>>>> - first class support for pipelines >>>> >>>> Yes, it is an interesting read. I think multibranch Workflow plus >>>> Docker integration starts to close the gap on these two bullet points. >>>> (See my recent webinar for background.) 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