I do not feel this change has been discussed enough before applying.
I'm fine if we keep the current state if nobody objects.

понедельник, 3 октября 2016 г., 21:11:42 UTC+2 пользователь Kanstantsin 
Shautsou написал:
>
> Rename will keep redirect, so not sure.
>
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 22:10, nicolas de loof <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> My initial proposal was to rename existing as -legacy, which would result 
> in something comparable.
>
> Le 3 oct. 2016 9:07 PM, "Kanstantsin Shautsou" <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> a écrit :
>
>> Backup, delete, fork, push back?
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 22:05, Baptiste Mathus <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> So, anyway, now we know. It's not possible to attach a fork afterwards 
>> <https://twitter.com/GitHubHelp/status/783018024056029184>.
>>
>> 2016-10-03 14:52 GMT+02:00 nicolas de loof <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>>:
>>
>>> I'm not sure we can get such a repo easily configured as a fork from 
>>> xstream
>>> Also, this wouldn't help much to maintain our commits as we would then 
>>> have two independent commit trees in the same repo
>>>
>>> Anyway, if this is considered a better approach, I'm fine with it
>>>
>>> 2016-10-03 14:45 GMT+02:00 Kanstantsin Shautsou <[email protected] 
>>> <javascript:>>:
>>>
>>>> I mean utilise existing repo instead of creating new. Everything the 
>>>> same that would be done in new repo, but in old. 
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 15:40, nicolas de loof <[email protected] 
>>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not sure I understand your suggestion, how would this help get commits 
>>>> back and forth jenkins and xstream plugin ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-10-03 14:30 GMT+02:00 Kanstantsin Shautsou <[email protected] 
>>>> <javascript:>>:
>>>>
>>>>> But you can create scratch branch and import anything into?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 15:22, nicolas de loof <[email protected] 
>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Our custom fork don't share any commit with the x-stream one as we 
>>>>> only imported xstream releases to "incoming" branch. So we don't share 
>>>>> history and there's nothing we could link to.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried to use git grafts to re-attach xstream recent commits to 
>>>>> Jenkins repo, but didn't got it to work, and also grafts can't be pushed 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> github (this is a local hack)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-10-03 14:15 GMT+02:00 Kanstantsin Shautsou <[email protected] 
>>>>> <javascript:>>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe try firstly try only with this repo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 15:09, Baptiste Mathus <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yup. Just asked through the GitHub support UI. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then if we agree, I guess we'll just be left with creating the list 
>>>>>> of repos to "reconcile" and issue a support request to batch update them 
>>>>>> via support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2016-10-03 13:58 GMT+02:00 Kanstantsin Shautsou <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <javascript:>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just write to support, they react really fast and solve issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 3, 2016, at 14:57, Baptiste Mathus <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe GitHub could just set up the link on existing repos to 
>>>>>>> [conceptually] forked ones? I've asked them on Twitter to see if they 
>>>>>>> have 
>>>>>>> an answer. Might be possible, since the contrary is and we regularly 
>>>>>>> ask 
>>>>>>> them to "break" fork links.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-10-03 13:03 GMT+02:00 Kanstantsin Shautsou <
>>>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:>>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 Url in top of page should be enough imho.
>>>>>>>> Maybe name repository `xstream-jenkins` as project do `-jenkins` 
>>>>>>>> releases?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 11:16:17 AM UTC+3, nicolas de loof 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've created https://github.com/jenkinsci/xstream-fork, branch 
>>>>>>>>> "jenkins" is based on upstream tag 1.4.7 + diff from our fork, so 
>>>>>>>>> code is 
>>>>>>>>> equivalent to https://github.com/jenkinsci/xstream
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are you OK I documented on jenkinsci/xstream this repo is 
>>>>>>>>> deprecated and redirect users to jenkinsci/xstream-fork if they want 
>>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>>> propose PRs ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2016-09-30 23:35 GMT+02:00 Mark Waite <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't it be better to leave the existing repository with its 
>>>>>>>>>> current name to prevent breaking anyone who depends on that 
>>>>>>>>>> location, then 
>>>>>>>>>> create the forked repository under an entirely new name (like 
>>>>>>>>>> xstream-fork)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Other than that minor item, I think it is an interesting idea to 
>>>>>>>>>> clearly show projects which are forks of an upstream project.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mark Waite
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 2:32 PM nicolas de loof <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jenkins uses some custom builds of external libraries, typically 
>>>>>>>>>>> XStream.
>>>>>>>>>>> Today such projects are hosted on github, which would make 
>>>>>>>>>>> easier to keep in sync and/or propose fixes to upstream project. 
>>>>>>>>>>> But we 
>>>>>>>>>>> can't reconcile existing repository with project's github.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Typical sample : 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jenkinsci/xstream/ vs 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/x-stream/xstream
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest we rename such a repo on jenkinsci organization as 
>>>>>>>>>>> "-legacy", then fork the upstream project, and apply a diff to 
>>>>>>>>>>> ensure we 
>>>>>>>>>>> get our own changes back (or maybe try to cherry-pick patches, 
>>>>>>>>>>> which would 
>>>>>>>>>>> be nicer but more complex).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We could then ensure PR made to jenkinsci are also proposed to 
>>>>>>>>>>> upstream project and we only include fixes that are strictly 
>>>>>>>>>>> related to 
>>>>>>>>>>> jenkins usage, or at least changes we approved might be included in 
>>>>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>>>>> future upstream project release
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wdyt ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
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