I agree with Baptiste. When I've checked on the moderator queue after a flurry of spam, more often than not I've found that someone else had already handled the messages which google groups had detected as spam. Enabling first-poster moderation will block the spam which google groups fails to detect as spam.
Mark Waite On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 4:42 AM Baptiste Mathus <bmat...@batmat.net> wrote: > IMO, we should really enable, at least temporarily, first-poster > moderation. I don't know what is the average subscription for people here, > but I suspect it's ML, hence receiving spams before they possibly get > deleted eventually from the GGroup archive. Hence no use. I'm in that case. > > Aren't we now enough who answered to this thread or previously to enable > this option? I don't expect an email would stay in the queue for more than > a few hours with that amount of people? And this seems like a reasonable > compromise for stopping spams here? > > Thanks > > -- Baptiste > > 2017-04-24 20:13 GMT+02:00 Michael Hunter <michaelrf.hun...@gmail.com>: > >> I am willing to help as well. Timezone: GMT, BST. >> >> On 19 April 2017 at 21:33, Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Let's go >>> CEST/CET >>> Do we know how many new subscribers we have per day/week to see how many >>> we should be to moderate new members ? >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Joseph P <joseph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I would also be willing. Timezone CEST/CET :) >>>> >>>> >>>> Den mandag den 17. april 2017 kl. 17.53.45 UTC+2 skrev R Tyler Croy: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> As you may have noticed, there has been an uptick in spam getting >>>>> through to >>>>> the Google Groups run by the Jenkins project. On some lists, these >>>>> have >>>>> resulted in Google flagging the group and bouncing emails from those >>>>> groups. >>>>> >>>>> This was discussed during our last project meeting >>>>> ( >>>>> http://meetings.jenkins-ci.org/jenkins-meeting/2017/jenkins-meeting.2017-04-12-18.00.html), >>>>> >>>>> and as promised I wanted to let everybody know where things stand and >>>>> why. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you receive emails as they're posted (non-digest mode) from Google >>>>> Groups, >>>>> if a spamemr gets through, there's nothing we can do for you. While I >>>>> have >>>>> added a couple more "Manager" roles to the jenkinsci-users@ list, who >>>>> can ban >>>>> authors and delete posts, once something is delivered to your inbox, >>>>> there's >>>>> nothing we can do. >>>>> >>>>> Some people have suggested first-poster moderation, which is one >>>>> option, but >>>>> not one I'm personally willing to turn on until more people are active >>>>> moderators. Unfortunately I took a weekend off from my morning-routine >>>>> of >>>>> banning spammers two weekends ago, which seems to have led to the >>>>> recent surge >>>>> and flagging of the group. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What we are evaluating between last project meeting and the upcoming >>>>> one (April >>>>> 26) is whether Google Groups is still a viable option for the Jenkins >>>>> project. >>>>> A number of other projects have moved to groups.io, which would be a >>>>> likely >>>>> destination if Google continues to flag our groups. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Consider yourselves updated, feel free to ping me on IRC (rtyler) with >>>>> questions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> - R. 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