Thanks, Oleg! In reply to your question, we didn't discuss more after the initial exchange but I'm happy to do so.
I like the way that Buffi described our intent for the webinar series (I don't think her original reply went through since she's not in the jenkinsci-dev Google group): "Just to be extremely clear here, 100% of the expert course content will be applicable to Jenkins OSS. The only CloudBees-specific mention would be as suggestive call to action around our FREE -ALWAYS Jenkins Distribution and/or Advisor plugin. So, I believe we fit within the guidelines and spirit of the name." Let me know if you have questions or concerns! Best, On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 11:40 AM Oleg Nenashev <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Just an update here, this request has been added to the Governance meeting > agenda on Nov 20. > > @Parker @Tyler did you finish your discussuin about "If this "master > class" were to contain Jenkins-based commercial products, such as CLoudBees > Core, then I would have an objection to the use of the Jenkins trademark > for the effort."? > > Best regards, > Oleg > > > On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 8:57:43 PM UTC+2, Parker Ennis wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Is someone with write permissions able to add this item to the governance >> agenda for tomorrow since the wiki page is now read-only? That would be >> fantastic. >> >> Best, >> >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:57 AM Parker Ennis <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the feedback, Tyler. Completely reasonable concerns. >>> >>> We want to keep the focus on Jenkins as you mentioned and won't have >>> content around CloudBees Core, for example. However, we will want to >>> utilize the series to attract people to the support offering and use the >>> content as a value add to support. CloudBees Jenkins Distribution, since >>> it's free to all and only includes a few proprietary plugins, would be the >>> other piece I'd hope that would be ok to include. At the end of the day, >>> the intent is for this to be Jenkins specific. Thoughts? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 9:28 AM R. Tyler Croy <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> (replies inline) >>>> >>>> On Wed, 09 Oct 2019, Parker Ennis wrote: >>>> >>>> > On behalf of CloudBees, I’d like to request permission to use the >>>> following >>>> > name with ‘Jenkins’ in it: >>>> > >>>> > • Jenkins Master Class >>>> > >>>> > "Jenkins Master Class" will be a series of educational webinars >>>> hosted by >>>> > CloudBees that invites experts from both the Jenkins community and >>>> CloudBees to >>>> > team up and share their knowledge with others. The intent is to host >>>> 10+ >>>> > webinars, or "courses," with a duration of about an hour each >>>> released on a >>>> > monthly cadence. They will be recorded for future use. Here's a >>>> loose [1] >>>> > example of the concept from which we're drawing inspiration. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The "test" we have typically applied to such requests in the past was >>>> whether >>>> the use of the mark was pecific to Jenkins, as opposed to including >>>> other >>>> non-Jenkins applications/products. >>>> >>>> For example, I have no problem with this so long as the content of the >>>> "master >>>> class" are specifically around Jenkins as it is understood by the open >>>> source >>>> community, i.e. open source plugins and core, etc. >>>> >>>> If this "master class" were to contain Jenkins-based commercial >>>> products, such >>>> as CLoudBees Core, then I would have an objection to the use of the >>>> Jenkins >>>> trademark for the effort. >>>> >>>> >>>> Knowledge sharing is certainly a noble goal, but for the use of the >>>> Jenkins >>>> mark, the scope should be necessarily limited. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Toodles >>>> --- >>>> GitHub: https://github.com/rtyler >>>> >>>> GPG Key ID: 0F2298A980EE31ACCA0A7825E5C92681BEF6CEA2 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/RsYEboXMRk5QGxcXH0moxY7pT4lEdZ636ceepYhZL0XiTh9Ep5xNzwdrKd-JelWpcKE13oh0ufLhApxcHtZpypn7eoZ3dPX7b2Xc2SyriLc%3D%40brokenco.de >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> *Parker Ennis* >>> >>> *Product Marketing Manager* >>> >>> [image: CloudBees-Logo.png] >>> >>> >>> M: (803) 386-7562 >>> E: [email protected] >>> Skype: parker.cb >>> Twitter: @Parker_CB <https://twitter.com/Parker_CB> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> *Parker Ennis* >> >> *Product Marketing Manager* >> >> [image: CloudBees-Logo.png] >> >> >> M: (803) 386-7562 >> E: [email protected] >> Skype: parker.cb >> Twitter: @Parker_CB <https://twitter.com/Parker_CB> >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Jenkins Developers" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/95fc6c3b-034d-4879-a161-8d4423816b08%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jenkinsci-dev/95fc6c3b-034d-4879-a161-8d4423816b08%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- *Parker Ennis* *Product Marketing Manager* [image: CloudBees-Logo.png] M: (803) 386-7562 E: [email protected] <[email protected]>Skype: parker.cb Twitter: @Parker_CB <https://twitter.com/Parker_CB> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Jenkins Developers" group. 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