Hi all,

We had a meeting yesterday, thanks to everyone who participated!
TL;DR: We are restarting the SIG, with the updated scope of interest 
suggested in the initial email.

   - Recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO0J7mJOvK4
   - Meeting 
   notes: 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13zeaKgtud5jZ5RqZEh1lrwjDXJRm7j31scPymlrMpfo/edit?usp=sharing

Founding projects are yet to be finalized, but we start from at least 
Jenkins Operator for Kubernetes, Jenkinsfile Runner, External / Cloud 
Native Fingerprint Storage, Documentation for Kubernetes use-cases (joint 
project with Docs SIG), and a number of plugins targeting the CNCF 
ecosystem. We invite other projects to join!

Best regards,
Oleg Nenashev


On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 7:06:12 AM UTC+2, Oleg Nenashev wrote:
>
> Thanks to all who voted! Based on the feedback, we will be doing this 
> meeting tomorrow: Tuesday, May 19, 2PM UTC.
> For those who cannot attend but would like to participate in the SIG, this 
> meeting will be recorded. Later we will start a longer voting process to 
> define the timeslots for regular SIG meetings.
>
> Calendar link: 
> https://calendar.google.com/event?action=TEMPLATE&tmeid=MWtjazdqNWxla2lpbzdtZ3JzMWlnY3ZpMnEgNHNzMTJmMG1xcjN0YnAxdDJmZTM2OXNsZjRAZw&tmsrc=4ss12f0mqr3tbp1t2fe369slf4%40group.calendar.google.com
>
> Best regards,
> Oleg
>
> On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 2:14:12 PM UTC+2, Oleg Nenashev wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I started a Doodle for the initial meeting: 
>> https://doodle.com/poll/4p3ureaxuscvwgi7. It would be great to have the 
>> meeting next week so that we have initial discussion between volunteers 
>> about the next steps. After that we could setup regular SIG meetings in 
>> June.
>>
>> I have also drafted a new meeting agenda doc 
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/13zeaKgtud5jZ5RqZEh1lrwjDXJRm7j31scPymlrMpfo/edit?usp=sharing>,
>>  
>> and added a few items for the discussion:
>>
>>    - Cloud Native SIG 2.0 - Defining areas of interest (see the original 
>>    message)
>>    - Founding projects.Some projects (Jenkins Kubernetes Operator, 
>>    Jenkinsfile Runner) can be moved from the previous SIG edition, but we 
>> may 
>>    want to revisit the scope
>>    - Jenkins Kubernetes Operator - Online meetup follow-ups && how could 
>>    we help the project (features needed in upstream components, etc.)?
>>
>> Please vote in Doodle and add your topics to the agenda!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Oleg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 6:49:04 PM UTC+2, Sumit Sarin wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Oleg!
>>> Tremendously excited for this. And after completion of work on the 
>>> External Fingerprint Storage, looking forward to contribute to all the 
>>> other exciting projects you mentioned! :)
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>> Sumit
>>>
>>> On Friday, 15 May 2020 10:31:43 UTC+5:30, Sladyn Nunes wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I agree , there are quite a few integration possibilities with CNCF 
>>>> projects, and various other cloud focused initiatives could be undertaken. 
>>>> Count me in. +1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 15, 2020, 5:12 AM Vlad Silverman <vsilv...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would be glad contributing to this as well
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 14, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Marky Jackson <marky....@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I whole heartily support this and please count me in to do whatever is 
>>>>> needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 14, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Oleg Nenashev <o.v.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Jenkins Cloud Native special interest group 
>>>>> <https://jenkins.io/sigs/cloud-native/> has been dormant for about a 
>>>>> year since the offline meeting at Kubecon 2019 in Barcelona. There is a 
>>>>> lot 
>>>>> of interest from the users about running Jenkins in cloud environments 
>>>>> and, 
>>>>> specifically, in Kubernetes. We have recently started a series of 
>>>>> "Jenkins 
>>>>> in Kubernetes" online meetups 
>>>>> <https://www.meetup.com/Jenkins-online-meetup/>, and we got positive 
>>>>> feedback and many follow-ups there. It would be great if we could recover 
>>>>> the SIG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Previously the SIG was mostly focused on the deep Jenkins architecture 
>>>>> changes, including pluggable storage and architecture changes towards 
>>>>> stateless Jenkins. This is definitely a valiant goal which should be 
>>>>> worked 
>>>>> on, but for the SIG it was a challenge to consolidate a critical mass of 
>>>>> contributors to push such deep surgery changes forward. I hope that we 
>>>>> will 
>>>>> eventually get there, but the SIG format did not work well.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would suggest to change the scope of the SIG and to refocus it on 
>>>>> use-cases for Jenkins end users and administrators:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Integrations with Kubernetes and other projects from the CNCF 
>>>>>    landscape
>>>>>    - Managing Jenkins in Kubernetes: Helm charts, Jenkins operator, 
>>>>>    monitoring with Prometheus, etc.
>>>>>    - Jenkins on Cloud providers (AWS, Google Cloud, Azure, etc): 
>>>>>    Provisioning of agents, cloud storage, and other common use-cases
>>>>>    - Jenkins FaaS Capabilities: Jenkinsfile Runner and similar engines
>>>>>    - Integrations with cloud native CI/CD engines like Tekton and 
>>>>>    Jenkins X
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>> Immediate projects the SIG would focus on: Kubernetes plugin 
>>>>> ecosystem, Jenkins Kubernetes Operator (JEP-219), Jenkinsfile Runner, 
>>>>> External Fingerprint Storage (GSoC 2020 project), "Jenkins on Kubernetes" 
>>>>> meetup follow-up discussions with speakers. We could add more projects if 
>>>>> there are active initiatives there and put them on the Jenkins roadmap 
>>>>> <https://www.jenkins.io/project/roadmap/>.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think? I would appreciate any feedback and comments. If 
>>>>> there are multiple contributors interested, I am ready to go ahead and 
>>>>> get 
>>>>> the SIG running again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your feedback,
>>>>> Oleg
>>>>>
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