> I personally think without the slave context, master is pretty accurate
That's a good point. I did a quick search and noticed that Apache Mesos renamed to agents a few years back but left the main controller as being a "master" so there is some precedent there. Richard. On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 05:05, 'Gavin Mogan' via Jenkins Developers < [email protected]> wrote: > Control plane works but is a mouthfull. Controller works, but as others > pointed out, could easily be confused in the k8s world. > > the other two (Host and Server) are way too generic to convey meaning if > you don't know the system. > > You could go silly like POTUJ (President of the United Jenkins) or JOTUJ > (Jenkins of the United Jenkins). > Jenkins Brain > Jenkins President > Jenkins CEO > Jenkins Manager > Jenkins Foreman > Jenkins Governor > Jenkins Super / Super Jenkins > Jenkins Taskmaster > Jenkins Boss > Jenkins Leader > Jenkins Overlord > > A lot came from > https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/controller.html > > I personally think without the slave context, master is pretty accurate. > To be absolutely honest, if it has more syllables than the current, people > are super likely to stick with the existing wording (Slave-1 vs Agent-2) > cause its easier to say/remember. > > Gavin > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:13 AM Jeff Thompson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> My favorite is "Jenkins server" or something like that. There are already >> existing usages and it's reasonably explanatory. Something with "manager" >> could also work, but I don't find the term as clean and clear. >> >> Outside of bias issues, one of the problems with whitelist and blacklist >> is that the terms don't really say what they do. Sometimes the >> interpretation depends on which way you're looking at it. Somewhat similar >> to whether a class hierarchy goes up or down. >> >> "AllowList" and "DenyList" are good matching pairs that convey more >> semantics about what they do. >> >> In other discussions we have noted that not all usages of >> whitelist/blacklist fall into the same behavioral meaning. Sometimes we >> will need to use different terminology to better convey the meaning. >> >> Jeff >> On 6/12/20 3:20 AM, Oleg Nenashev wrote: >> >> I am +1 for changing the terminology, and I encourage Jenkins >> contributors to participate in this effort. It is not something we could >> change in a minute, but we could do a gradual cleanup and improve the >> overall documentation while doing so. >> >> I am -1 w.r.t "host" due to the following reasons: >> >> - Host term is very generic, it has thousands of usages in Jenkins >> https://github.com/search?q=org%3Ajenkinsci+host&type=Code. Choosing >> this term will require a careful cleanup to avoid confusion in user >> documentation and the codebase >> - "agent host" is often used to describe target hosts for outbound >> agents >> >> My suggestion would be to consider a *"Jenkins server"* term. You can >> see that such a term is already used in our codebase >> <https://github.com/search?q=org%3Ajenkinsci+%22Jenkins+server%22&type=Code>, >> website >> <https://github.com/jenkins-infra/jenkins.io/search?q=%22jenkins+server%22&unscoped_q=%22jenkins+server%22>and >> on 3rd party resources >> <https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Jenkins+server%22&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCH837CH837&oq=%22Jenkins+server%22&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.2969j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8> >> . >> >> Best regards, >> Oleg >> >> On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 6:42:34 AM UTC+2, Marky Jackson wrote: >>> >>> It is a suggestion for consideration if you would like. >>> >>> On Jun 11, 2020, at 9:35 PM, Richard Bywater <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Good point. I actually wonder if Manager is a reasonable replacement? >>> >>> On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 16:04, Marky Jackson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The concern with controller may be a conflict with Kubernetes on >>>> Jenkins given the same name. 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