> Honestly I'm not even sure it's worth spending the time to upgrade the 
plugin. It just adds a low res icon and a link. I vote for discontinuing 
the non distributed plugin. 

There are some merits in the icon/link: pointing end users of Jenkins to 
https://www.jenkins.io/participate/ . It **might** help to get more 
visitors of this page and, hopefully, new contributors. 
We could also discontinue the plugin and just include the functionality 
into the Jenkins core. Should not be a big deal as long as it's opt-in in 
appearance.

BR, Oleg

On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 3:19:21 AM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote:

> Honestly I'm not even sure it's worth spending the time to upgrade the 
> plugin. It just adds a low res icon and a link. I vote for discontinuing 
> the non distributed plugin.
>
> On Mon., May 10, 2021, 11:34 a.m. Mark Waite, <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>> +1 from me on the proposal as well
>>
>> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 5:20:02 AM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to proposal
>>>
>>> On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 11:08, Oleg Nenashev <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would appreciate any feedback in this thread from the community
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 9:58:50 AM UTC+2 Oleg Nenashev wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We’ve recently had a few discussions with the board and Daniel Beck 
>>>>> about the “Friend of Jenkins” plugin. This is a plugin referenced from 
>>>>> https://www.jenkins.io/donate: *“In showing our appreciation, we’ll 
>>>>> send out a special "friend of Jenkins" plugin to those who have donated 
>>>>> at 
>>>>> least 25 USD / 25 EUR. This plugin adds a little icon in the footer 
>>>>> section, telling that you are a friend of Jenkins. You can install this 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> your Jenkins to show off that you’ve helped us”*. De facto, we have 
>>>>> not been doing so in the recent years. There are a few problems 
>>>>> associated 
>>>>> with the plugin.
>>>>>
>>>>> *First of all*, you can become a “Friend of Jenkins” only by donating 
>>>>> money. IMO it goes against open source values, we should equally 
>>>>> appreciate 
>>>>> all kinds of contributions and avoid promoting money donations 
>>>>> specifically. *Secondly*, the plugin is private source at the moment. 
>>>>> It is weird to send a private source plugin to anyone, especially as 
>>>>> appreciation. *Thirdly*, the plugin is dated. It has not been updated 
>>>>> for a while, and it does not use modern build/test pipelines. For example 
>>>>> the code still targets Jenkins 1.396 as the build target. Even if the 
>>>>> code 
>>>>> is tiny, it is not good to send such a questionable build to Jenkins 
>>>>> users 
>>>>> and suggest its installation. *Last but not least*, sending private 
>>>>> builds in email is flawed on its own due to the risk of various social 
>>>>> engineering attacks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest that we completely tear down the “Friend of Jenkins” program:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - We remove sections about “Friend of Jenkins” from the Donations 
>>>>>    page
>>>>>    - Instead of sending the plugin, the Jenkins Governance Board will 
>>>>>    focus on sending appreciation letters and recognizing donations 
>>>>> through 
>>>>>    Jenkins social media. It should help us to build relationships with 
>>>>> donors 
>>>>>    and hopefully get them involved in the community.
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>> Later actions (no specific timeline):
>>>>>
>>>>>    - We (as community) open source the plugin as the standard Jenkins 
>>>>>    plugin on https://github.com/jenkinsci, update it to the modern 
>>>>>    development pipelines.
>>>>>    - We update the plugin to reference 
>>>>>    https://www.jenkins.io/participate/ instead of donations.  We 
>>>>>    might add “Donate” as a type of participation to the list 
>>>>>    - We release the plugin as 2.0, without changing the artifact ID. 
>>>>>    Any user of the older private source version, if any, will be able to 
>>>>>    update via the update center. Any Jenkins user will be also able to 
>>>>> install 
>>>>>    it via the plugin manager, no preconditions.
>>>>>    - We reference the plugin from the install wizard suggestions (not 
>>>>>    installed by default), and other places.
>>>>>
>>>>> There were also some discussions about building signed versions of the 
>>>>> plugin and somehow allowing to verify the “Friend of Jenkins” status. 
>>>>> Although I proposed it, now I do not think it is really needed. We can 
>>>>> discuss it for future iterations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would appreciate any feedback, and I suggest discussing that at the 
>>>>> next Governance meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Oleg Nenashev
>>>>> Jenkins Governance Board
>>>>>
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