ah thank you!!! this makes sense, I think I was reading this totally wrong, 
as 1.8.0 and 1.1.2 I need more coffee today thanks! 

On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:17:27 PM UTC-5, slide wrote:
>
> Just a small note, 1.12 is newer than 1.8, Jenkins plugins generally 
> follow this pattern. 12 > 8, so it's newer.
>
> On Tue Nov 18 2014 at 11:08:52 AM S Day <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> we recently upgraded our jenkins to 1.580.1  from version 1.532.2  and 
>> have had lots of issues with mailer, 
>>
>> we have 1.8 installed, however when I go into jenkins I get
>>
>> This version of Jenkins comes with new versions of the following plugins 
>> that are currently pinned 
>> <https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Pinned+Plugins> in the plugin 
>> manager <http://cc.velir.com:8080/pluginManager/>. It is recommended to 
>> upgrade them to at least the version bundled with Jenkins.
>>
>>    - Jenkins Mailer Plugin
>>
>> When I go into plugins though it says I can upgrade to 1.12 and I have 
>> (1.8) in parentheses installed
>>
>> (it seems like it wants me to go back versions?)
>>
>> So next I went into instealled plugins and tried to disabled mailer
>>
>> after doing that in restarting jenkins I now get a screen that says I 
>> can't even start jenkins!!
>>
>> http://cc.velir.com:8080/j_acegi_security_check
>>
>> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: hudson/tasks/Mailer$UserProperty
>>      at 
>> hudson.plugins.active_directory.ActiveDirectoryUnixAuthenticationProvider.retrieveUser(ActiveDirectoryUnixAuthenticationProvider.java:296)
>>      at 
>> hudson.plugins.active_directory.ActiveDirectoryUnixAuthenticationProvider.retrieveUser(ActiveDirectoryUnixAuthenticationProvider.java:193)
>>      at 
>> hudson.plugins.active_directory.ActiveDirectoryUnixAuthenticationProvider.retrieveUser(ActiveDirectoryUnixAuthenticationProvider.java:137)
>>      at 
>> org.acegisecurity.providers.dao.AbstractUserDetailsAuthenticationProvider.authenticate(AbstractUserDetailsAuthenticationProvider.java:122)
>>      at 
>> org.acegisecurity.providers.ProviderManager.doAuthentication(ProviderManager.java:200)
>>      at 
>> org.acegisecurity.AbstractAuthenticationManager.authenticate(AbstractAuthenticationManager.java:47)
>>      at 
>> org.acegisecurity.ui.webapp.AuthenticationProcessingFilter.attemptAuthentication(AuthenticationProcessingFilter.java:74)
>>      at 
>> org.acegisecurity.ui.AbstractProcessingFilter.doFilter(AbstractProcessingFilter.java:252)
>>      at 
>> hudson.security.ChainedServletFilter$1.doFilter(ChainedServletFilter.java:87)
>>      at 
>> jenkins.security.BasicHeaderProcessor.doFilter(BasicHeaderProcessor.java:86)
>>      at 
>> hudson.security.ChainedServletFilter$1.doFilter(ChainedServletFilter.java:87)
>>      at 
>> org.acegisecurity.context.HttpSessionContextIntegrationFilter.doFilter(HttpSessionContextIntegrationFilter.java:249)
>>      at 
>> hudson.security.HttpSessionContextIntegrationFilter2.doFilter(HttpSessionContextIntegrationFilter2.java:67)
>>      at 
>> hudson.security.ChainedServletFilter$1.doFilter(ChainedServletFilter.java:87)
>>      at 
>> hudson.security.ChainedServletFilter.doFilter(ChainedServletFilter.java:76)
>>      at hudson.security.HudsonFilter.doFilter(HudsonFilter.java:164)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1482)
>>      at 
>> org.kohsuke.stapler.compression.CompressionFilter.doFilter(CompressionFilter.java:46)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1482)
>>      at 
>> hudson.util.CharacterEncodingFilter.doFilter(CharacterEncodingFilter.java:81)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler$CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1474)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.doHandle(ServletHandler.java:499)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ScopedHandler.handle(ScopedHandler.java:137)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.security.SecurityHandler.handle(SecurityHandler.java:533)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.session.SessionHandler.doHandle(SessionHandler.java:231)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandler.doHandle(ContextHandler.java:1086)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.doScope(ServletHandler.java:428)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.session.SessionHandler.doScope(SessionHandler.java:193)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ContextHandler.doScope(ContextHandler.java:1020)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.ScopedHandler.handle(ScopedHandler.java:135)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java:116)
>>      at org.eclipse.jetty.server.Server.handle(Server.java:370)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.AbstractHttpConnection.handleRequest(AbstractHttpConnection.java:489)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.AbstractHttpConnection.content(AbstractHttpConnection.java:960)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.AbstractHttpConnection$RequestHandler.content(AbstractHttpConnection.java:1021)
>>      at org.eclipse.jetty.http.HttpParser.parseNext(HttpParser.java:865)
>>      at org.eclipse.jetty.http.HttpParser.parseAvailable(HttpParser.java:240)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.server.AsyncHttpConnection.handle(AsyncHttpConnection.java:82)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.io.nio.SelectChannelEndPoint.handle(SelectChannelEndPoint.java:668)
>>      at 
>> org.eclipse.jetty.io.nio.SelectChannelEndPoint$1.run(SelectChannelEndPoint.java:52)
>>      at winstone.BoundedExecutorService$1.run(BoundedExecutorService.java:77)
>>      at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(Unknown Source)
>>      at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source)
>>      at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
>> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: hudson.tasks.Mailer$UserProperty
>>      at 
>> jenkins.util.AntClassLoader.findClassInComponents(AntClassLoader.java:1375)
>>      at jenkins.util.AntClassLoader.findClass(AntClassLoader.java:1325)
>>      at jenkins.util.AntClassLoader.loadClass(AntClassLoader.java:1078)
>>      at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
>>      ... 44 more
>>
>>
>>
>> I had to go into the config.xml in my jenkins home folder and comment all 
>> our security lines out then I had to disable jenkins access on my firewall 
>> from external users cause now I'm totally unsecure.
>>
>>
>> Can someone please assist me and let me know what's up with this mailer 
>> plugin? If it's now bundled how can I safely remove it?
>>
>>
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