Le 9 mars 2015 18:22, "Les Mikesell" <[email protected]> a écrit :
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Baptiste Mathus <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > I tend to disagree. People using LTS are somehow conservative and would
be
> > at risk to get confused: "so, in the end, is that LTS safe, or is it
going
> > to screw up my data?".
>
> Yes, when you know that LTS is going to screw up data, it only seems
> reasonable to post it in a visible place.

Ahem. That's the point here. The LTS is not concerned by that change...

>
> > We could indeed add information in the LTS changelog that is going to
change
> > *in the future*, but I personally think it's just better to leave it
clean
> > for non-advanced user.
>
> I thought the point of even having LTS was to be able to avoid known
> issues to the extent possible. So when an issue affecting it becomes
> known, the ideal thing would be to _fix_ the by-then-known problem,
> but if that is too much to ask, warning about it would seem
> appropriate.

See above.

>
> > If you install bleeding edge version, better read the changelog in
general.
> > And if you don't and it crashes, then read the changelog.
> > In this case, it was not a lot of versions of difference so not even
much to
> > read.
>
> But when you want to get away from the crashes of the bleeding edge
> version and back off to LTS in hopes of doing better you probably
> won't be happy when it eats your existing data...
>
> > What I agree on, though, is that we may want to add some kind of
disclaimer
> > in the main changelog, and on the download link (latest and greatest
one) to
> > warn users that it may be (very) unstable and depending on their
situation
> > they may prefer trying LTS.
>
> There is an issue in general with breaking changes in stored data
> formats and one-way migration.  And this is hardly a unique case.
> Switching to LTS is a likely, but not the only thing that may make you
> need to go backwards.  It would be nicer if such breaking changes had
> a way to convert back - or at least there

There is. Read the link, did you?

> was a 'big-picture' of what
> versions (including plugins) could deal with the storage formats of
> what other versions.  For example, installing the latest svn plugin
> broke all of my stored credentials and I had to back the plugin out
> and restore the credential files from a backup.   Where can I look to
> know what to expect in situations like that?

https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Subversion+Plugin in this case,
in general. Then depends on your very issue.

Cheers

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