Created a bug for it with evidence and jenkins plugin 
info: https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-43576

On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 6:48:06 PM UTC-4, Kenneth Brooks wrote:
>
> Quickly trying out your suggestion of pipeline directly inside the if. It 
> sees the stages, but something is not right.
> It doesn't see/execute the environment section (which means the use of 
> credentials('cred') isn't being loaded.
>
> Here is what I see when the pipeline {} is on it's own:
>
> [Pipeline] withEnv
> [Pipeline] {
> [Pipeline] withCredentials
> [Pipeline] {
> [Pipeline] stage
> [Pipeline] { (Feature Build)
>
>
> Here is what I see when I wrap a simple if around the pipeline:
>
> [Pipeline] stage
> [Pipeline] { (Feature Build)
> [Pipeline] node
>
>
> Am I missing something or should I file a bug?
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 4:53:23 PM UTC-4, Patrick Wolf wrote:
>>
>> Feel free to open a JIRA ticket but I'm not a huge fan of this because it 
>> is counter to the KISS principle we wanted with Declarative and breaks the 
>> Blue Ocean editor.  We have discussed having multiple "stages" blocks but 
>> rejected that because it quickly becomes needlessly complex without adding 
>> any use case coverage. IMO, having multiple "stages" makes much more sense 
>> than having multiple "pipelines" or else you will have to recreate all 
>> agent, environment, libraries, options, parameters etc for each pipeline 
>> and that leads to wanting those sections being DRY as well and Declarative 
>> pretty much falls apart completely.
>>
>> BTW, It is already possible to have multiple 'pipeline' closures in a 
>> single Jenkinsfile but they will be treated as parts of a whole Pipeline 
>> and this cannot be used in the editor.  Because the Jenkinsfile is treated 
>> as one continuous Pipeline anything outside of the pipeline closures is 
>> interpreted as Scripted Pipeline. This means you can use 'if' blocks around 
>> the separate 'pipeline' blocks instead of using 'load' if you choose but 
>> keeping them in separate files makes maintenance easier, I think.
>>
>> if (BRANCH_NAME.startsWith("develop")) {
>>     pipeline { .... }
>> } 
>>
>>
>> Also, it's worth noting that 'readTrusted' probably works better than 
>> 'load' because this takes the committer into account and it doesn't require 
>> a workspace.
>>
>>
>> https://jenkins.io/doc/pipeline/steps/workflow-multibranch/#code-readtrusted-code-read-trusted-file-from-scm
>>
>> As for DRY stages there are several ways to accomplish this with Pipeline.
>>
>> 1. Shared Library and Resources - This is the preferred method of 
>> creating DRY routines
>>
>> You create a global variable that has all of the steps you want (with 
>> appropriate variable replacement for environment variables). You could have 
>> a build.groovy global variable in the /vars directory that does all of your 
>> build steps. Then the steps in your stage can be single line.
>>
>> Alternatively, you can store shell scripts in the /resources of your 
>> shared library and run those in your steps without having to duplicate 
>> anything:
>>
>> https://gist.github.com/HRMPW/92231e7b2344f20d9cc9d5f2eb778a54
>>
>> 2. You can define your steps directly in the Jenkinsfile at the top level 
>> either as strings or methods and simply call that method from with each 
>> pipeline.
>>
>> 3. You can define your steps in a configuration file as a property or 
>> yaml and load those files using the Pipeline utility steps plugin. 
>> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Pipeline+Utility+Steps+Plugin
>>
>> To sum up, I think having different stages is worth discussing (it is not 
>> going to be implemented in the short term) but there are already many 
>> existing ways to make Pipelines DRY.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 8:43:49 AM UTC-7, Kenneth Brooks wrote:
>>>
>>> TL;DR up front:
>>> *As a user, I want to have a pipeline that performs specific pipeline 
>>> stages based on the branch. Recommendation: Put the when{} condition 
>>> outside the pipeline{} tag.*
>>> *As a user, I want to declare my stages but have the implementation be 
>>> separate so that I can reuse them in multiple pipelines*. 
>>>
>>> Currently the Declarative syntax has the ability to perform a stage 
>>> conditionally using 'when' but not a whole pipeline.
>>> This leads to making the pipeline fairly inflexible and much harder to 
>>> read thru.
>>>
>>> Take for example:
>>>
>>> pipeline {
>>>
>>>    stages {
>>>      stage('Build') {
>>>        when { branch "develop || master || feature"} // no the real syntax, 
>>> i know
>>>        steps { /* do some build stuff */ }
>>>      }
>>>
>>>      stage('Scan') {
>>>        when { branch "master"}
>>>        steps { /* run static code analysis or other code scanning */}
>>>      }
>>>
>>>      stage('Pull Request Build') {
>>>        when { branch "PR-*"}
>>>        steps { /* do a merge build stuff */ }
>>>      }
>>>
>>>      stage('Dev Deploy') {
>>>        when { branch "develop || master"}
>>>        steps { /* deploy to dev */ }
>>>      }
>>>
>>>      stage('Pull Request Deploy') {
>>>        when { branch "PR-*"}
>>>        steps { /* deploy to special PR sandbox */}
>>>      }
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>> In this simple example, the following will happen, but it is extremely hard 
>>> to follow.
>>>
>>> Feature -> Build
>>> Master -> Build, Scan, Dev Deploy
>>> Develop -> Build, Dev Deploy
>>> Pull Request -> Pull Request Build, Pull Request Deploy
>>>
>>> I would suggest we allow the when to be placed at the pipeline level 
>>> somehow.args
>>>
>>> pipeline('master') { // Just for naming
>>>   when { branch "master" }
>>>   stages {
>>>     stage('Build'){
>>>       steps { /* do some build stuff */ }
>>>     }
>>>     stage('Scan'){
>>>       steps { /* run static code analysis or other code scanning */}
>>>     }
>>>     stage('Dev Deploy'){
>>>       steps { /* deploy to dev */ }
>>>     }
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>> pipeline('develop') { // Just for naming
>>>   when { branch "develop" }
>>>   stages {
>>>     stage('Build'){
>>>       steps { /* do some build stuff */ }
>>>     }
>>>     stage('Dev Deploy'){
>>>       steps { /* deploy to dev */ }
>>>     }
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>> pipeline('pull request') { // Just for naming
>>>   when { branch "PR-*" }
>>>   stages {
>>>     stage('Pull Request Build') {
>>>       steps { /* do a merge build stuff */ }
>>>     }
>>>     stage('Pull Request Deploy') {
>>>       steps { /* deploy to special PR sandbox */}
>>>     }
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>> pipeline('feature') { // Just for naming
>>>   when { branch != "master || PR-* || develop" } // just do a build for any 
>>> 'other' branches, which would then include developer feature branches
>>>   stages {
>>>     stage('Build') {
>>>       steps { /* do some build stuff */ }
>>>     }
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>> That, to me, is much cleaner. It is very easy to see exactly what each 
>>> pipeline is doing.
>>> This brings one downside. The stage is repeated.
>>> stage('Build') and stage('Dev Deploy') are the same impl, but I have to 
>>> write them 2 times.
>>> I could create a global library, but then that has 2 other downsides. It is 
>>> no longer declarative syntax in the global library, the global library is 
>>> loaded external. I have to now go to a whole other file to see that 
>>> implementation.
>>>   
>>> To keep things DRY I would also like to then see the stages treated as a 
>>> definition and and implementation.
>>> Define the stages external to the pipeline, but pull them into each 
>>> pipeline.
>>>
>>> This can optionally be done (like you'll see on the Pull Request stages).
>>>
>>> Here is what I believe the combination of the two would look like:
>>>
>>>
>>> pipeline('master') { // Just for naming
>>>   when { branch "master" }
>>>   stages {
>>>     stage('Build')
>>>     stage('Scan')
>>>     stage('Dev Deploy')
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>> pipeline('develop') { // Just for naming
>>>   when { branch "develop" }
>>>     stages {
>>>     stage('Build')
>>>     stage('Dev Deploy')
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>> pipeline('pull request') { // Just for naming
>>>   when { branch "PR-*" }
>>>   stages {
>>>     stage('Pull Request Build') {
>>>       steps { /* do a merge build stuff */ }
>>>     }
>>>     stage('Pull Request Deploy') {
>>>       steps { /* deploy to special PR sandbox */}
>>>     }
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>> pipeline('feature') { // Just for naming
>>>   when { branch != "master || PR-* || develop" } // just do a build for any 
>>> 'other' branches, which would then include developer feature branches
>>>   stages {
>>>     stage('Build')
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>> /* Stage definitions below */
>>> stage('Build'){
>>>   steps { /* do some build stuff */ }
>>> }
>>>
>>> stage('Scan'){
>>>   steps { /* run static code analysis or other code scanning */}
>>> }
>>>
>>> stage('Dev Deploy'){
>>>   steps { /* deploy to dev */ }
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there a way to do this with the current declarative syntax?
>>>
>>> If not, what is the best way to get this into the declarative syntax? Open 
>>> jira enhancement requests?
>>>
>>>
>>> What we've resorted to in the mean time (which still doesn't solve the DRY 
>>> part) is to have a Jenkinsfile that does the if logic and then loads a 
>>> specific pipeline (which has its own demons because the load evals the file 
>>> immediately and is holding onto a heavyweight executor the whole time).
>>>
>>>
>>> if (env.BRANCH_NAME.startsWith("develop")) {
>>>     load 'develop-pipeline.groovy'
>>> } else if (env.BRANCH_NAME.startsWith("master")) {
>>>     load 'master-pipeline.groovy'
>>> } else if (env.BRANCH_NAME.startsWith("PR-")) {
>>>     load 'pull-request-pipeline.groovy'
>>> } else {
>>>     load 'feature-pipeline.groovy'
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>

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