let me extend my example

say

> Computer A:
>            CPu =100
>            RAM = 1GB
>            s/w = c++
> Computer B:
>           CPU =20
>           RAM = 512M
>           S/w =spps
> Computer C
>           CPU =12
>           RAM = 2GB
>           s/w = mathlab
>>>       service = bioInformatic service(BLAST) - this is a new service

with refers to Computer C, it just introduced/published in the broker a new
attribute/property namely service. I wonder how this infrormation  being
made available in Jess/JHCR/any other techniques on the fly- with that, the
"user-wants" could be easily satisfied.
in this case - user-wants might be "run my application with mathlab and use
the BLAST tools" - which not priory available on the origional rules/facts
declaration. My  requirement  is  -  my new rules/facts must be able be
updated and evaluated of there is any request related at particular time.

Any ideas/comments are very much welcome.

mnoor




On Nov 15, 2007 11:15 PM, Hal Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The rules are compiled into classes, so yes, they are hard coded in that
> sense.  But you can compile on the fly and create new systems of rules.
> However, the question comes down to what are the constraints you are
> trying to solve?  Is it true that the constraints are changing and therefore
> you need to create a new system of constraints?  Or is the data changing and
> the system remains unchanged.   If you do have to change the constraint
> system/rules, then under what conditions?  Are you changing the constraint
> system when you could be modeling this as data that the constraint system
> uses (thus eliminating the need to change the constraints)?  If not, then
> how often does the constraint system change?  For example, is it a time
> based policy, like 8am - 4pm, these constraint rules are used, but 5pm -
> 7am, we use a different set?  If so, then the life cycle doesn't change -
> merely the equations/rules.  You can therefore create a model where you can
> switch in the constraint system to satisfy.
>
> You can also use object oriented techniques with constraints (
> http://tinyurl.com/2rfdck ).  This would allow you to subclass, use
> polymorphism, etc, which may allow you to have an extensible system which
> doesn't require changing the constraints.
>
> There's a lot of modeling choices out there...
>
> On Nov 15, 2007, at 2:46 PM, Mohd. Noor wrote:
>
> Yes, - I noticed that we have to consider the state of resource at certain
> point of time.
>  I go through the examples of JCHR, it look like that we have to hardcoded
> the rules. Am I right/wrong?.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2007 7:35 PM, Hal Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > There's a life cycle involved, so you're never going to get a system
> > with continuously varying state (nor would you really want to), thus it has
> > to be sampled discretely.  The result is a system which triggers when the
> > sampled values change.  Some values, like hardware configuration, will
> > change slowly.  Others, like CPU load, I/O utilization, etc, will change
> > faster.   But regardless, the essential life cycle remains the same:
> >
> >    - sample the data - event driven, perhaps
> >    - set up your equations - canned, template or rule driven
> >    - get your solutions - multiple solutions are possible
> >    - choose your solution - rule driven, perhaps
> >    - effect the system change based on the solution
> >
> >
> > Rinse and repeat.
> >
> >  On Nov 15, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Mohd. Noor wrote:
> >
> > Dear All
> >
> > Thanks for the kind replies
> > What I am concerned is, my rules is always dynamically changes over
> > time(e.g. CPU availability/utilisation) -with that, I cannot hard coded
> > on the programming coding.
> > Even their template/"deftemplate" might be changes( e.g. new software
> > properties/a totally new hardware-such as any new instrument attached to the
> > computer system)
> >
> > Is that possible with JCHR?
> >
> > Any suggestions are welcome
> >
> > Cheers
> > mnoor
> >
> >
> > On Nov 15, 2007 5:09 PM, Hal Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > What you are describing is constraint programming.  You can do this
> > > with Jess, but it's not exactly the best (imho) tool for the job due to 
> > > what
> > > is involved.  The combinatorics are nasty in all but the simplest 
> > > examples.
> > > For a constraint solver that runs (with minor tweaks) in Jess, see
> > > http://tinyurl.com/yvz98m
> > >
> > > This technique might do what you want, but you might want to look into
> > > constraint systems in Java like JCHR or even Genetic Algorithms, which are
> > > particularly good at searching large sparse spaces for solutions to
> > > constraints.
> > >
> > >  On Nov 15, 2007, at 8:45 AM, Mohd. Noor wrote:
> > >
> > > let say the user want to select the computer (resources) in which
> > > suite their requirement- in this case user wants to run mathlab simulation
> > > in computer(clusters) that have more than 20 CPUs available. Let consider
> > > the attributes such as CPU and software are treated differently(whereby we
> > > can migrate the software and licenses to the node that most appropriate 
> > > with
> > > users' resources requirements- in this case;). This rules (contains the 
> > > node
> > > A, B and C's properties/attributes) suppose made available in the 
> > > brokerage
> > > level.
> > >
> > > In this case the user may select the mathlab from node C and run on
> > > node B.
> > >
> > > How do we transform the resources properties into the rules?
> > > How we are going to infer the rules?
> > > How we can apply a forward chaining and backward chaining?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > mnoor
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 15, 2007 2:42 PM, Motaz K. Saad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Could you explain more!.
> > > > Do you want to make a rule to determine computer specifications for
> > > > a given software.?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 15, 2007 1:48 PM, Mohd. Noor < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > dear jess
> > > > > how to make a rule from this scenario
> > > > >
> > > > > Computer A:
> > > > >            CPu =100
> > > > >            RAM = 1GB
> > > > >            s/w = c++
> > > > > Computer B:
> > > > >           CPU =20
> > > > >           RAM = 512M
> > > > >           S/w =spps
> > > > > Computer C
> > > > >           CPU =12
> > > > >           RAM = 2GB
> > > > >           s/w = mathlab
> > > > >
> > > > > The user will request to run a software mathlab - how do the rules
> > > > > look like
> > > > >
> > > > > cHEERS
> > > > >
> > > > > On Nov 15, 2007 11:44 AM, Mohd. Noor < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > dear jess
> > > > > > how to make a rule from this scenario
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Computer A:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Motaz K. Saad
> > > > Computer Science Dept.
> > > > College of IT
> > > > http://motaz.saad.googlepages.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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