From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What about forgiveness, the evil done by others, and the evil we believers have done in our flesh? A successful Christian fellowship and/or marriage consists of the unity of people who have agreed to forgive each other as Christ has forgiven them.
A study on forgiveness by R. Tyler, 5/7/â04 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] PART THREE OF THREE Prv 28:13 Â He that covereth his transgressions shall not prosper; but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall obtain mercy. Prv 28: 13 Â He who keeps his sins secret will not do well; but one who agrees with [God about them], and forsakes them, will get mercy. 1Jn1:9 If we keep on admitting our sins, [continuing to agree with Jesus about our sins,] He is faithful and just to forgives us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness/wickedness. ///What if I ask Jesus to forgive me while I keep on doing the sin for which I am asking forgiveness? The genuine believer cannot continue in sin and keep on practicing and living in sin because either Father will chasten him with weakness and sickness to the point the believer stops sinning, or He delivers the body of the sinning saint to Satan for the destruction of the believers body, and then Father takes that snared believer Home where he can no longer sin or be tempted to sin. *** 1 Cor 5:4* In the name of our Lord Jesus, when you are all assembled and my spirit is with you, together with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 I have handed over such a man to Satan for the destruction of his body, that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord Jesus. ***1 Cor 11:30* That is why many among you are sickly and out of health, and why not a few die. 31 If, however, we estimated ourselves aright, we should not be judged. 32 But when we are judged by the Lord, chastisement follows, to save us from being condemned along with the world. ***1 John 3:6 No one who continues in union with Him keeps on practicing and living in sin: no one who keeps on living in sin has seen Him or knows Him. 7 Dear children, let no one lead you astray. The man who continues acting righteously, practicing righteousness, is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who is habitually practicing and living in sin is a child of the Devil, . . . . 9 No one who is a child of God habitually practices and lives in sin. A God-given germ of life remains in him, and he cannot habitually sin--because he is a child of God. 10 By this we can distinguish Godâs children and the Devilâs children: no one who keeps on failing to act righteously is a child of God, nor he who does not keep on loving his brother man. 1 John 3 WEY+TCNT+DBY WHAT IF THE SINNING SAINT REPENTS (AGREEING WITH JESUS ABOUT THE SIN AND FORSAKING IT) BEFORE JESUS LETS SATAN DESTROY HIS BODY? ***2Co 7: 8* For if I gave you pain by that letter, I do not regret it, though I did regret it then. I see that that letter, even though for a time it gave you pain, had a salutary effect. 9 Now I rejoice, not in your grief, but because the grief led to repentance; for you sorrowed with a godly sorrow, which prevented you from receiving injury from us in any respect. 10* For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, a repentance not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world finally produces death. 11 For mark the effects of this very thing--your having sorrowed with a godly sorrow--what earnestness it has called forth in you, what eagerness to clear yourselves, what indignation, what alarm, what longing affection, what jealousy, what meting out of justice! You have completely wiped away reproach from yourselves in the matter. 12 Â Therefore, though I wrote to you, it was not to punish the offender, nor to secure justice for him who had suffered the wrong, but it was chiefly in order that your earnest feeling on our behalf might become manifest to yourselves in the sight of God. WEY ***Jas 5:19 My brethren, if any one among you err from the truth, and one bring him back, 20 let him know that he that brings back a sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death and shall cover a multitude of sins. HOW SHOULD WE DEAL WITH THE REPENTANT AND FORGIVEN SAINT? ***2Cor 2: 5* Â Now if any one has caused sorrow, it has been caused not so much to me, as in some degree--for I have no wish to exaggerate--to all of you. 6 In the case of such a person the punishment which was inflicted by the majority of you is enough. 7 So that you may now take the opposite course, and forgive him rather and comfort him, for fear he should perhaps be driven to despair by his excess of grief. 8* I beg you therefore fully to reinstate him in your love. 9 For in writing to you I have also this object in view--to discover by experience whether you are prepared to be obedient in every respect. 10 When you forgive a man an offence I also forgive it; for in fact what I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, has always been for your sakes in the presence of Christ, 11 for fear Satan should gain an advantage over us. For we are not ignorant of his devices. WEY ///GOD DOES NOT FORGIVE ALL ***1 Jn 1:9 If we keep on admiting (homologeo) our sins, [continuing to agree (homologeo) with Jesus about our sins,] He is faithful and just to forgives us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness/wickedness. ///Those who don't admit their sins in agreement with God about their sins, those are not forgiven or cleansed of their sin. Prv 28:13 Â He who keeps his sins secret will not do well; but one who agrees with [God about them], and forsakes them, will get mercy. ///Those who don't admit their sins in agreement with God about their sins AND FORSAKE THEIR SINS, those GET NO MERCY are not forgiven or cleansed of their sin. ///IF THERE HAS BEEN NO sorrow over the sin, no carefulness about the sin, no clearing himself of the sin, no indignation against his sin, no fear of God about his sin, no vehement desire to be free of the sin and reconciled to God, and no revenge against that sin, THEN there has been no Godly repentance. If there has been no Godly repentance, there is no mercy or forgiveness. Prv 28:13 Â He who keeps his sins secret will not do well; but one who agrees with [God about them], and forsakes them, will get mercy. ///Because His rules were violated/disobeyed, GOD CAUSED Ananias and Saphira TO DIE for lying to the Holy Spirit (Acts). God ordered the body, of the sinning believer who was sexually having his father's wife, to be delivered to Satan for the destruction of his flesh for the salvation of his spirit (1 Cor 5). God caused many of the rich Christians who were shaming the poor Christians in the Church's pot lucks and communion, caused many of them to be weak, sick and asleep in death (1 Cor 11). God is faithful to chasten His children, for He has promised (Heb 12). As one who has been so chastened, I am a witness of His Fatherly faithfulness. If His children will not agree with him about their sin in confession, and in godly sorrow and repentance turn from their sin to God, He may well deliver their bodies to Satan for the destruction of their flesh so that their spirits may be saved in the last day (1Cor 5:3-5). CONTRARY TO WHAT IS TAUGHT BY SOME CHRISTIAN LEADERS, we are called to follow in Jesusâ and Stephenâs footsteps, blessing, praing for and forgiving those who do evil to us without apology, without regret or repentance. We are called to forgive those who are doing evil to us while they are doing it to us, just like Jesus and Stephen forgave and called for Godâs forgiveness of those who were killing them. It is ridiculous and mindless to think that while Jesus and Stephen were calling on Abba Father to forgive the wrong doers, they themselves were not forgiving the ones doing evil to them. ***Lu 23:34 And Jesus said, Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. And, parting out his garments, they cast lots. ***Lu 6:27* But to you that hear I say, Love your enemies; do good to those that hate you; 28* bless those that curse you; pray for those who use you despitefully. ***Ac 7:60 And kneeling down, he [Stephen] cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And having said this, he fell asleep. ***Ro 12:14 Bless them that persecute you; bless, and curse not. ***1Pe 2:21* For to this have ye been called; for Christ also has suffered for you, leaving you a model that ye should follow in his steps: . . . 23* who, when reviled, reviled not again; when suffering, threatened not; but gave himself over into the hands of him who judges righteously; We are called to forgive those who wrong us. His part is to enlighten them (John 1:9); convict them of their sins, His judgment of the sins and His righteousness that requires such judgment of their sins (John 16:7-11); and execute justice and holy vengeance on them if they refuse the forgiveness of Christ (Rom 12:19). PLEASE REMEMBER: ***Mt 6:12 and forgive <863> us our shortcomings, as we also have forgiven <863> those who have failed in their duty towards us; . . . 14 âFor if you forgive <863> others their offences, your Heavenly Father will forgive <863> you also; 15 but if you do not forgive <863> others their offences, neither will your Father forgive <863> yours. ***1 Cor 7:11* or if she has already left him, let her either remain as she is or be reconciled to him; and that a husband is not to send away<863> his wife. 12* To the rest it is I who speak--not the Lord. If a brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, let him not send her away<863>. 13* And a woman who has an unbelieving husband--if he consents to live with her, let her not separate<863> from him. WEY Forgiveness is like divorce and marital separation. When you forgive<863> someone for the wrong they did, you divorce yourself from the wrong they did, no longer living with it, considering it, interacting with it. The wrong they did no longer has a place in your life. When Jesus has forgiven you and in agreement with Him you forgive<863> yourself for the wrong you did, you divorce yourself from the wrong you did, no longer living with it, considering it, interacting with it. The wrong you did no longer has a place in your life, other than to diligently seek to not do the wrong again. If you are not a member of one of my groups and you wish to repond to me, please do so directly to one of my email addresses. Because of my job and my other responsibilities I am no longer able to daily keep up with all the groups of which I am a member and to which I post. The Most High God loved the people of the world so very much that He sent and gave His only Son born of a woman, God with us, to be our Passover Lamb to cover our sins if we sincerely and genuinely call and depend on King Jesus of Bethlehem ALONE to save us from our sins and present us covered with His perfect righteousness to Abba Father in Heaven. http://profiles.yahoo.com/oldservant8; http://hometown.aol.com/oldservant8/myhomepage/profile.html; http://profiles.yahoo.com/anoldservant [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. 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