> De: David Sean Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviado el: martes 11 de diciembre de 2001 20:45

> I would like to start a new cvs for Jetspeed-2, similar to 
> how Turbine now
> has Turbine-2 and Turbine-3 repos.  Jetspeed-2 would be based 
> on the Portlet
> API, and a Portlet Container SPI.

+1

> From reading the postings on the emails, and from personal 
> experiences,
> there is some question as to whether we should continue to 
> base Jetspeed on
> the Turbine framework.
> I see some basic framework choices available at jakarta:
> 

Keep in mind that we are producing right now 2 separate things, a
portlets and protlet container spec, and a implementation of that spec,
so we should try to implement it in as various frameworks as we can, i
know this is very ambitious, and I can sound as dreamer, but that's my
opinion..here we go.. ( my votes are only indicative of personal
preferences not strong opinions.. but no time to start any of them )

> * Avalon?

I do not see that, i know very little of Avalon, my  only experience is
from Cocoon2 use of Avalon..

> * Cocoon-2

I do like very much that option, and leveraged so many times to started
to look at there heavily, and i'm overly fascinated by their community

Some time ago Stefano made a proposal of changing the actual
agggregation engine done as generator and make a transformer.., we can
hook there, making our psml a source of for aggregation, that ideally
that a portlet is.. i dont know if there was more than words in that
aggregation engine, but i think this a good start point..

What i think fails there is the action processing capability, i need to
study a bit how this is done in cocoon2, but i can recall it is very
poor compare to turbine.. it seems this will be much improved in Cocoon
2.1..but i dont know how this will end there :), may be they will use
scheme and thats are fat words.. :)

+1 

> * Struts

I like struts and i use it in my own projects, but i fail to see
JetSpeed as Struts app, i need to restate my study of struts to see how
can we implement a portlet container there..

0

> * Turbine-2

?�?�?� a next portlet container planned in a past Framework?

-1

> * Turbine-3

Well the easy path.., i'm getting used to turbine 2, how big will be the
step from 2 to 3.., a complete api change ? 

+0

> * none

We can consider to create our own framewok, but i dont like this way, i
think we are producing implementations of portlet containers not
frameworks ..

-1

> IMO, we are not leveraging jakarta-commons, and we should be.
> When looking to refactor the jetspeed architecture, we should 
> have a good
> knowledge of all the apache projects and their capabilities. I will be
> spending the next few weeks doing exactly that.


Agreed

Saludos ,
Ignacio J. Ortega


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