Hi all,

I find this great idea.

Before doing something like that, I would also love to see some definition
of "portal". For example does a portal suppose to have a navigation? Does a
portal suppose to contain the information itself or only metadata with
references? I would like to see more work on metadata, data/metadata
organisation, semantics and separation of content / presentation. 
Finally I find very critical to have Cocoon in this "Portal Site".

Looking forward for it ....

Vangelis


-----Original Message-----
From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 11:42 PM
To: Jetspeed List
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: portals.apache.org


I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at 
Apache: portals.apache.org
Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the 
concept.
Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see 
if everyone stands behind this new TLP.

The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together 
communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:

1. Jetspeed
2. Jetspeed-2
3. Pluto
4. WSRP-4J
5. Portlet Applications ....

These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into 
portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or 
portals.apache.org/pluto

Goals of portals.apache.org:

1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as an 
important technology in the growing portal and web application 
environments.  We intend to build freely available portlet 
applications, portal servers, and portlet containers in order to 
promote the use of this technology.
2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work 
together and share common code
3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks 
at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet 
Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
     Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application 
development while cleanly separating the development of portals such as 
Jetspeed from applications code.
4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML standards and 
reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org

Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and 
WSRP4J) mailing lists.
To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
Not sure if this is the best solution, since Im going to receive 3 
emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer 
groups on this thread.
(I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)

Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well 
enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org. I
have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you 
don't know until you ask.
Of course the Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how 
this can happen.

--
David Sean Taylor
Bluesunrise Software
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[office]   +01 707 773-4646
[mobile] +01 707 529 9194


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