David Le Strat wrote:

Ate,

I think we should cross post your comments on the OJB
and Jetspeed development lists and initiate a
discussion around this.


I also think we should do the same regarding the
Tomcat JAASRealm issue.

What do you think?
I have no objections, only not much hope they would wanna fix this themselves (any time soon).
The comments in their current form are also too J2 specific to have much effect. I think they must be rewritten as proper questions targeted at each list.
I can do that but actually don't feel like it right now (I'm swapped with other issues myself which got delayed already too much because of all this).


I think what might be more effective is a direct discussion with some of their lead 
developers.
Maybe I've overlooked some solutions they might see.
A few weeks back David Taylor invited Brian McCallister to discuss our problems with 
OJB.
Inviting him back to discuss the current issue might be an idea?
Also, if someone knows Remy Maucherat from Tomcat maybe he could be invited to discuss 
our problems with the JAASRealm.
I don't have the contacts yet ;-) to do so but maybe David Sean Taylor, you or someone 
else?

Regards,

Ate


Regards,

David.

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The following comment has been added to this issue:

    Author: Ate Douma
   Created: Fri, 28 May 2004 5:26 AM
      Body:
I think I have found solution which I think might be
the easiest way to go.

There is one big consequence that I don't like but
it applies to any other valid solution we have come
up with so far (except patching the Tomcat
ClassLoaders or OJB itself which I personally don't
see as acceptable options). I will come back to this
consequence below.

What I did was moving all the classes which OJB
might instantiate dynamically (using the
currentThread contextClassLoader) into commons.
This involves *all* the om classes, a few ojb util
classes like the FieldConversion implementations,
and the OJB jar itself.

I also needed to refactor the
StoreablePortletDefinitionDelegate which was
dependent on PersistencyStore. I solved that by
creating a new interface
(PortletDefinitionStoreDelegate) which defines
handling the store functionality and a
implementation class of which a
StoreablePortletDefinitionDelegate gets supplied in
its constructor.

Furthermore, I moved registry
o.a.j.components.portletentity.PortletEntityImpl,
which really is an om class, to a new commons
package o.a.j.om.common.entity.impl. I guess this
one was overlooked in abstracting the om classes.

Thats all.
All the current classloader issues are solved by
this.

Because I moved all these om packages to commons we
will lose the cvs history on all these files though.
Thats bad, but the price of still using cvs.

There is one more big consequence though which
should be considered before this is applied (I will
attach a patch file after this comment).
Moving the ojb jar to tomcat shared/lib means that
external portlet apps which also want to use ojb
really are forced to use the version supplied by J2.

In theory, a web-app can supply its own version of
ojb in its WEB-INF/lib folder and it *will* override
the version in shared/lib (servlet api spec
compliance).
But, because J2 also uses OJB, om objects loaded
through J2 will have a different classloader as the
ones loaded through a portlet app.
Thus, this locks portlet developers who want to use
OJB (but, who would, honestly?) into the version
supplied by J2 (and are not even allowed to put the
same version in their WEB-INF/lib folder).
Currently, I don't see how this can be prevented
though. If we don't want to put OJB into shared/lib
we will have to hack the Tomcat classloaders, or
hack OJB itself for not using the ContextClassLoader
anymore. I think the OJB team made a wrong decision how to
implement the dynamic classloading. In its current
form OJB cannot be used by any web application using
cross-context functionality without the same
consequence. Maybe they can be convinced to change
this but I don't see that happen overnight and we
need a solution now...


If we are going for this solution then we can go
full speed ahead again.


But we must be very careful not (re)introducing
these kind of problems. Maybe not only OJB causes
these kind of problems.
The rules to prevent this are simple:
1) Put all classes which might get dynamically
created through the ContextClassLoader by a external
web app into shared/lib.
2) If one of those classes need an object reference
only available to J2 itself, Dependency Injection is
required based on interfaces in shared/lib (like I
did with StoreablePortletDefinitionDelegate).


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       Key: JS2-56
   Summary: Objects Fail to Create with Tomcat
Classloaders and cross context
      Type: Task

    Status: Open
  Priority: Major

Project: Jetspeed 2
Components: Components Core
Fix Fors:
2.0-dev/cvs
Versions:
2.0-a1


  Assignee: David Sean Taylor
  Reporter: David Sean Taylor

   Created: Tue, 25 May 2004 9:35 PM
   Updated: Fri, 28 May 2004 5:26 AM
Environment: Tomcat 4 and 5

Description:
J2 uses a cross-context class loader to share
objects created in the jetspeed context with other
portlet application contexts. This works fine when
objects have already been instantiated in the
jetspeed context.


J2 infuses a common servlet into every portlet
application that is deployed into a Tomcat
application server via the J2 portal's PAM (Portlet
Application Manager). The code that runs in this
servlet is placed in Tomcat's shared/lib directory
so that both Jetspeed common servlet and the
Jetspeed portal can share objects.


The problems I am seeing with this approach are
rooting in the creation of new objects. For example,
if a portlet application, such as the HW_App, has a
portlet UserInfo, that requires creation of
preference objects. Preference objects by OJB.
Looking at the code used by the ojb object broker



http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/db-ojb/src/java/org/apache/ojb/broker/util/ConstructorHelper.java

you see object creation taking place as:

 result = constructor.newInstance(NO_ARGS);

And this code fails, class not found exception. It
fails to find the object to be created, such as a
NodeImpl, which is deployed in the Prefs jar,
normally stored under jetspeed's WEB-INF/lib
directory. This tells me that the classloader being
used by the code above is not the same as the
cross-context classloader in Tomcat...or...the
Tomcat cross-context class loader is not designed to
handle this kind of object construction.

I think we have several directions we can take for a
solution
One experiment I tried with Tomcat 4.1.30, was:

1. move every jar out of WEB-INF/lib into shared/lib
2. delete all classes under WEB-INF/classes
3. copy jetspeed-2.0-a1.jar into shared/lib
4. move the JDBC driver into Tomcat's system
directory or into the classpath

This seemed to work, although for some reason I
could not login to the LoginPortlet tonight. Not
sure if its related. The solution is simple here:
move everything down into shared/lib.


A second solution would be to replace Tomcat's
cross-context class loader with our own.
Although I have not found a 'pluggable' way to do
this.

A third solution would be to modify the classloader
in the Jetspeed common servlet.
I have started some testing in this area without any
success (yet):



http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-jetspeed-2/commons/src/java/org/apache/jetspeed/container/JetspeedContainerServlet.java

see the infuseClasspath method









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