David Sean Taylor wrote:


On Jun 18, 2004, at 2:31 PM, Ate Douma wrote:


What I'm still missing is where folder/menu specific configuration is defined. Things like ordering (I've read JS2-69, but that doesn't tell me more), ACL, menu rendering depth.

If you look at the current PSML, ACLs are defined on the page and fragment level

Yes. I know.
But I still don't know where to specify an ACL on a subfolder, or in which
order I want my pages / subfolders be displayed in a menu (other than
alphabetically).


A subfolder is just a page (PSML) right?
Wow. I didn't get that one yet.
I have the impression Scott wants to derive folders directly from
filesystem folders.
His comment on 6/16/2004:
>> Do I understand it now correctly that folders (for a file based Page Manager)
>> are simply derived from filesystem folders?
> That is how I see it.  Or possibly using a VFS file system.
Furthermore, how would that psml look like? If a folder is a page, a folder
contains pages, and pages are all defined in their own psml you need external
references to define containment...

So the ACL is on the page in its respective PSML file

For ordering, you need some metadata on the top level page

And, menu rendering depth probably will be the same for all pages within
a folder (and even pages within subfolders thereof).
Seems kinda strange to have to define this on each and every page.


I think I misunderstand this. Wouldn't the menu for a page only have the menu-items from the immediate subpages (by default) below it?
The user could then add or remove(disable) as needed
Normally not.
Consider a menu of depth 2 (Scott's example).
If I'm on a page from depth 1 and navigate to a page from depth2 wouldn't I want
to see the exact same menu (only indicating a different selection).
And if I navigate to a page from depth 3 I probably again want to see the same
menu. The parent folder (depth 2) menu item should then be selected.
A tree type menu (on the left) of unlimited depth starting from depth 3 would then
indicate the current page selection.
This is only one use case but a valid and a very common one I think.


Menus based on folder navigation really are somewhat 'above' pages and even
folders.
I don't want to update all of them just to increase/decrease the depth.


Im sorry but I don't understand what you are saying here
If you take the example I gave above, the menu (depth) configuration really should
be defined on the 'top' folder and be inherited/enforced below. If we need to define
this on or through each and every page definition it becomes troublesome to update it.


Menu rendering depth could be hard coded and/or configured within the layout
decoration but that would make it hard to modify through an Customizer.


Why not have menu metadata in the PSML?

See above why that may not be so nice...

You lost me again. Do you mean immediately above?
The whole point of PSML is that has a model that can be customized.
When you customize, you manipulate PSML



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