I know many of you don't know me - I'm a Cocoon and Portals committer (which I guess means I have commit rights to Jetspeed - although I certainly don't believe I have your permission to do that) and have been monitoring these lists as I will be using Jetspeed 2 in an upcoming project. FWIW - The Cocoon team has been working hard to convert from the ant build to maven. Cocoon has huge problems in that its download is huge, primarily because of all the bundled jars. It also has a lot of optional parts which end users should have to download if they don't want them. There have been issues with Maven but they seem to disappear fairly rapidly.

I myself have been using Maven 1 for a couple of years and much prefer it over Ant, despite all of its problems. I'm really looking forward to using Maven 2. As a matter of fact, we plan to use Maven 2 for the project that will be using Jetspeed.

Now, since I'm pretty sure that I am going to have to modify some of the login stuff for our environment eventually, I guess I'd prefer a Maven 2 build.

Ralph


David Sean Taylor wrote:
Ive invested time in Maven-2, not near as much as Randy though
He has really invested a lot of time and I think we need to consider his opinion above all us, since he experienced building Jetspeed + maven

I have travelled all over the world teaching people Jetspeed, and time and time again, I feel like Im spending way too much time debugging Maven and plugin problems and teaching people Maven and trying to explain why they need Maven. Im seeing that people really want:

1. simple builds they can understand. they understand Ant
2. complete eclipse integration a must
   this means unit tests must work in eclipse
this means that the entire project can easily drop in and build in eclipse 3. continuous builds. many big companies use cruise control + ant as a standard. bringing in maven is a hard sell these days. not sure how to get around that

I think its time we listen to our community of users and stop trying to force something on them that they are not asking for. Maybe we should ask this question on jetspeed-user list

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