>   I think the bigger issue is whether view actions should be going back
> to the server.  I think going back to the server for every view action
> leads to a great number of problems.  Slow response, non-intuitive
> behavior, unintended side-effects such as when the user is on a form
> and then does something like minimizes another portlet.  This causes a
> new request to be made to the server and the entire page is reloaded
> which can result in some very strange things happening to their form
> interaction.

But then you loose the ability to process these types of actions at the server level.  
Many of my portlets change their entire content/layout when maximized.

As for forms, you should be able to code your portlets to intercept form data on 
minimize/maximize/close.

> I don't think that at this point there
> should be any concern with not supporting browsers that are not capable
> of html 4.0.  

Many handheld devices that accept HTML, like my T-Mobile Sidekick, cannot handle 
DHTML.  So this is a very real concern.  In a perfect world, we could rely on all 
users having compliant browsers and upgrading in a timely fashion, however, this is 
just not the case.  




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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerry Reno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:14 PM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: RE: IFramePortlet maximize
> 
> Stuart,
>   Thanks, I'll take a look at it.  It may help in the short term.
> 
>   I think the bigger issue is whether view actions should be going back
> to the server.  I think going back to the server for every view action
> leads to a great number of problems.  Slow response, non-intuitive
> behavior, unintended side-effects such as when the user is on a form
> and then does something like minimizes another portlet.  This causes a
> new request to be made to the server and the entire page is reloaded
> which can result in some very strange things happening to their form
> interaction.
> 
> My comment in the bug:
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21656
> Additional Comments From Gerry Reno 2003-07-16 18:18
> 
> Although there are a few things that have to be accounted for in doing
> client-side DOM/DHTML manipulation, I greatly prefer this type of
> approach.  It is much more responsive for the user and the pages behave
> intuitively as the user expects.  The box-model problem of IE is easily
> detectable and correctable and I don't think that at this point there
> should be any concern with not supporting browsers that are not capable
> of html 4.0.  Going back to the server for each view action causes many
> strange page problems such as the problem that I noted with the iframe
> behavior.
> 
> Gerry Reno
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Stuart Belden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > IFramePortlet is too limited for what you're trying to do; what you
> > want is something like WebSurfPortlet.
> > http://grids.ucs.indiana.edu/users/balsoy/jetspeed/
> >
> > It allows for navigation, and the html is integrated into the portlet
> > html itself instead of being in an iframe; I was able to adapt
> > WebSurfPortlet to our needs very well.
> >
> >
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/16/03 10:40AM >>>
> > Carlos,
> >   That won't work.  Using any of the portlet window actions will just
> > reload the default page and even if you could remember the last
> > visited
> > url then you would somehow have to force a reloading of that page
> > which
> > in many instances when on a forms page will cause unintended side
> > effects.  No, the proper place for this to be corrected is in the
> > IFramePortlet.
> >
> > Gerry Reno
> >
> >
> > --- Carlos Orrego <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > youwould have to add some code to your framed application to
> > remember
> > > in session the last visitid url. it is the only way i see it,
> > > i do not think it is a bug in jetspeed, it is the app problem
> > >
> > > c
> > >
> >
> >   I opened Bugzilla Bug 21656 on this problem.
> >
> > Gerry Reno
> >
> >
> > --- Gerry Reno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >   The IFramePortlet reloading of the default page instead of
> > > remaining
> > > on the current page happens when you maximize or minimize and then
> > > restore the portlet and even the print function suffers from this
> > > behavior.  The IFramePortlet does not appear very usable at the
> > > moment.
> > >
> > > Gerry Reno
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Aurelien Pernoud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:56 AM
> > > To: 'Jetspeed Users List'
> > > Subject: RE: IFramePortlet maximize
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That's the only default of the IframePortlet, but I don't know any
> > > simple
> > > way (even any hard one) to prevent this functionment.
> > >
> > > Gerry Reno a ecrit :
> > >
> > > >   I am using the IFramePortlet in one of my pages.  Whenever a
> > user
> > > > has clicked their way to a certain page that they want in the
> > > IFrame
> > > > portlet and then maximized the portlet, the portlet then reloads
> > > the
> > > > default iframe portlet page.  Is it possible to configure this so
> > > that
> > > > the iframe portlet can maximize and keep the current page
> > > displayed?
> > > >
> > > > thx,
> > > > Gerry Reno
> > >
> > >
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