> How many people are shifting from XSLT to DVSL?
> I am just getting reasonably comfortable with XSLT (have done a couple of
> multi-document navigations) but if DVSL/Velocity/Jetspeed is a good

As of Jetspeed 2, there is no marriage to any specific technology or framework in 
project.  You are free to choose the technology that suits you best like Struts with 
JSTL or VelociTags,  Turbine with Velocity or JSP or maybe even Tapestry which is 
devoid of a templating language entirely!  The ideals behind Jetspeed is to make it, 
combined with the Pluto container, THE defacto open source portal, JSR-168 or 
otherwise.  We are adhering very closely to as many J2EE technologies including JMX 
for management and possibly JAAS for security.

> We will try to share our "Jetspeed for
> Dummies" documentation once we get a bit further on and get it into a
> format
> that we could have used when we started.

Any contributions of documentation or otherwise are always welcome.



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:49 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: RE: Velocity vs JSP
> 
> Nick Bauman seemed pretty convinced from the case study.
> 
> I will continue to focus on Velocity. It does seem easier to understand
> and
> I think that I can build frameworks that my staff (not all  programmers
> but
> very smart) can modify with great predictabilty of outcome.
> 
> How many people are shifting from XSLT to DVSL?
> I am just getting reasonably comfortable with XSLT (have done a couple of
> multi-document navigations) but if DVSL/Velocity/Jetspeed is a good
> reliable
> architecture, I would just as soon invest the time and effort there.
> The biggest problem is the documentation. It assumes too much of an
> understanding of the history and underpinnings of Jetspeed. Just sorting
> out
> the roadmap for the configuration files and determining how all the xreg
> vm
> pmsl files related was a pain. We will try to share our "Jetspeed for
> Dummies" documentation once we get a bit further on and get it into a
> format
> that we could have used when we started.
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Weaver, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:08 AM
> To: 'Jetspeed Users List'
> Subject: RE: Velocity vs JSP
> 
> 
> > If I have to prioritize my education (which -for better or worse -
> drives
> > the corporate strategy), should I focus on learning Velocity or learn
> how
> > to
> > use JSP?
> 
> I use both JSP and Velocity but I am quite particular to Velocity.  The
> nice
> thing about Velocity is you don't need to "focus" on learning it.  It has
> a
> learning curve of about 2 to 3 hours and is so elegant and simple it's
> almost scary.
> 
> 
> > I reference to a white paper would be the best answer to this question.
> 
> The Velocity site is the best the place to start, here is link to
> comparison
> of Velocity vs. JSP.
> 
> http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/casestudy1.html
> 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 9:44 AM
> > To: Jetspeed Users List
> > Subject: RE: Velocity vs JSP
> >
> > Thanks for the strategy and the code fragment.
> >
> > Without getting into theology, what is the current thinking about JSP
> > versus
> > Velocity?
> > As a latecomer to the server side development wars, we have done one
> > fairly
> > large and complex application in JSP and XML.
> > The Jetspeed framework looks like it might be easier and more productive
> > than continuing to develop our own portal architecture.
> > I was not the coder on the JSP/XML portal but I am getting more
> > technically
> > involved in the investigation of Jetspeed and Velocity.
> >
> > Bottom Line question
> >
> > If I have to prioritize my education (which -for better or worse -
> drives
> > the corporate strategy), should I focus on learning Velocity or learn
> how
> > to
> > use JSP?
> > I do not care about "working on my resum�" since I am way too old to
> make
> > a
> > living as a programmer. I am only trying to try to keep the company at
> the
> > most productive point of the technology spectrum.
> >
> > I reference to a white paper would be the best anwer to this question.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> 
> 
> 
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