Raphael, I know you're unconvinced by any of the client-side technology arguments. But I will say that you should consider that the history of java is replete with examples of users rejecting "one-size fits all" solutions. They were many great "one size fits all" technologies that users did not embrace because they demanded a richer experience. Technologies such as applets, AWT, Swing. The portal and portlet specification shouldn't become a "one size fits all" solution set. It needs to recognize and specify how users can utilize portlets in both a server-centric manner and a client-centric manner.
>From the iView site: "For example, to monitor market data from Bloomberg.com, you can use an iView to add a Bloomberg window to your desktop, for a continuous, real-time display. You can click the window any time to access the full Bloomberg Web site." ... "Other enterprise portals provide static views of data sources, or make you drill down into data sources one at a time. But with iViews, your personalized portal is an always-on, always-active link to all the applications you need." ---- This perfectly represents the kind of interaction that I was referring to with the video portlet example that I used. Some portlets will need to be capable of being "always on, always connected". And video isn't the only example. There are many others uses of real-time live-display data that will require this type of capability. This means not destroying the DOM with continual page reloads as is the case with Jetspeed today and the JSR-168 portlet spec needs to recognize these use cases provide for there existence both in the way the spec is written and in the reference implementation. rgds, Gerry Reno --- "Luta, Raphael (VUN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > De : Helmut Tammen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sorry, > > > > I�ve forgot to say that this version of the PDK is only > > running with IE, > > but the release 6.0 of SAP Enterprise Portal should be browser > > independent (I�ve heard). Unfortunetly there is no PDK available > yet. > > > > I didn�t want you to switch from Jetspeed to SAP EP neither > > did I want > > to leave the impession that this product is the best Portal > > at all. It > > has it�s drawbacks like any other products but it�s worth a look > > especially because of it�s client side capabilities. > > Can�t be bad to have a look at products from competitors, can it!? > > > > I can't agree more but I'm still rather unconvinced by portal > solutions > relying heavily on advanced client-side behavior whatever their > benefits > are in terms of GUI: too complex to properly develop in a portable > way > because the meaningful standards aren't properly implemented by all > vendors and you have too high a risk of hitting costly C/S type > deployment > issues and tying your desktop solutions to your server solutions. > > Of course, your mileage may vary :) > > -- > Rapha�l Luta - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jakarta Jetspeed - Enterprise Portal in Java > http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/ > > ********************************************** > Vivendi Universal - HTTP://www.vivendiUniversal.com: > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > privileged > material of Vivendi Universal which is for the exclusive use of the > individual designated above as the recipient. Any review, > retransmission, > dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance > upon, > this information by persons or entities other than the intended > recipient > is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact > immediately > the sender by returning e-mail and delete the material from any > computer. > If you are not the specified recipient, you are hereby notified that > all > disclosure, reproduction, distribution or action taken on the basis > of this > message is prohibited. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
