> -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:47 AM > To: Jetspeed Users List > Subject: RE: Jetspeed2 planning > > Like most good conversation, this discussion raised more questions that it > answers. > I will ask mine just in case anyone knows the answer. > > 1) Do we have any sense or committment to the extent of upwards > compatibility of applications written for Jetspeed 1?
Since most of the J1 developers have an extensive applications in J1 you can bet there will be a migration path for existing J1 apps. However, this will take some time to put together. We are currently more interested in just getting J2 running and out to the community. > > 2) Will Jetspeed 2 be issued with the same licensing as the rest of the > Apache code? It will be under an Apache license, same as it has always been. > > 3) Is there a www site for Jetspeed2? Nope. But there is talk of a portals.apache.org subproject. If this does come to fruition all Jetspeed projects will more than likely be relocated to that site. > > 4) How will the transition from Jetspeed 1 to 2 be handled by the Jetspeed > contributing members. Will there be a separate support site? How long will > Jetspeed 1 get active support? I can't speak for any other developers; but I will try to offer as much help as possible for J1. We will continue to apply patches that are submitted to the J1 tree. > > 5) What documents are currently available describing Jetspeed 2? Pluto? I suggest getting J2 from the CVS. Start poking around from there. > > > I am having enough trouble and excitement getting Jatspeed 1B4 to do what > I > want, so my questions are a bit of background for long-term planning. I > will > not be overly offended if you want to close off this discussion until a > few > months before Jetspeed 2 is due for release. > > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: Weaver, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 9:37 AM > To: 'Jetspeed Users List' > Subject: RE: Jetspeed2 planning > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tim Reilly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 5:55 AM > > To: Jetspeed Users List > > Subject: RE: Jetspeed2 planning > > > > True but... > > > > In defense of these fellows who are dedicating their time to J2... > > I have to say - first realize that until the JSR is finalized there are > > legal implications; in particular the Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) to > > consider. > > NDA was the absolute worst thing in the world; it is the consummate OSS > killer! > > > > > I'd suggest anyone that really wanted earliest access could have joined > > the > > JCP as an individual and self-nominated to themselves to the JSR-168. > > > > The Pluto code base is under IBM's determination as to who can have > access > > as well as I suppose the JSR member organizations. So we can not beat-up > > on > > the Jetspeed team for this since they have no control over the issue. > > Someone (an IBM employeed) on the Jakarta PMC is now taking care of > getting > the correct licenses and CLAs in order for Pluto. > > > > > I'm not super familiar with the Apache PMO process, however I have been > > able > > to find various information on the proposal in the J2 CVS and on the > main > > apache site - proposals, etc. > > > > That said - I agree with the certain overtones of "closed'ness". Let's > say > > that if I donated enormous resources to Apache I might try to throw my > > weight around a bit. I can't guess what the "behind the scenes" issues > are > > - > > but if you look at the voting minutes for the JCP there are political / > > legal considerations it seems. The SCO/Linux pharse I'm sure also has > > every > > company that contributes to open initiatives on their toes - double- > > checking > > their "i"'s and crossing their "t"'s. > > > > So I'd rather /thank/ those working the Pluto proposal and project, and > > the > > jetspeed 2 project > > - I'm sure they are frustrated in not being able to share what they got > > yet > > as well. > > David and I are probably more frustrated than anyone else. We have had > many > talks about how disgusted and fed up with this process we have become. I > agree 100% that the closed-ness is shady and is against the ideals of OSS. > > What I think people on the list need to understand is that we are trying > our > damnedest to make things available to the community. However, we can only > do so much; the rest is out of our hands. > > > > > It seems every week or so someone expresses these same frustrations > (which > > I > > share), but I don't see anything constructive by doing that. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Endre Stolsvik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:57 AM > > > To: Jetspeed Users List > > > Subject: Re: Jetspeed2 planning > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Weaver, Scott wrote: > > > > > > | From what I have heard, it's very close now. I know, I know I have > > > | said that before, but I have seen correspondence in Apache lately > that > > > | seem to point things actually being finalized. What you might also > > find > > > | interesting is that Pluto and Jetspeed may have a new home at > > > | portals.apache.org, nothing is set in stone on that though. > > > > > > -Where- are these things going on? > > > > > > How much "behind the scenes" is to be expected from an -OPEN SOURCE- > > > organization like Apache? > > > > > > Endre. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > *===================================* > * Scott T Weaver * > * Jakarta Jetspeed Portal Project * > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * > *===================================* > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *===================================* * Scott T Weaver * * Jakarta Jetspeed Portal Project * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *===================================*
