I don't want to make it sound like J1 is dead. As a matter a fact, I think
the J1 is here to stay for a while as the "lite" version of Jetspeed.
However, it is true that most of the Jetspeed resources have been diverted
to work on J2. There's probably 3 of us actively maintaining J1 (note the
word "maintaining") and David is also working full-time on J2. This is the
reason why there will be no big documentation activity in the near future.
Not unless I clone myself or find some corporate sponsorship to do more J1
work ;-)

I will try to update the documentation in whatever spare time I get.

BTW: I'm not sure if you realise but David took quite bit time off to create
the tutorial. Jeremy and I also contributed some unpaid time into it. It was
no small effort and if anyone can think of improving it, feel free to submit
your additions and patches thru JIRA and we will try to apply them.

Best regards,

Mark C. Orciuch
Next Generation Solutions, Ltd.
e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: http://www.ngsltd.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Gunderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:36 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: Re: Documentation
>
>
> On Friday 30 April 2004 07:35 am, Ron Wheeler wrote:
> > I have some mindmaps that we generated in our first attempt to get
> > something going in Jetspeed.
> > It is a very complex environment with lots of pieces. It you have
> > never worked with any of the underlying technologies, it is difficult
> > to keep track of what each piece is and where the pieces touch. The
> > names are particularly helpful;-).
> >
> > The tutorial was interesting but raised more questions than it
> > solved. The construction of the old tutorial did not seem to follow
> > very logically from the distribution jetspeed jar. As I recall, it
> > appeared that files were in different directories and some files had
> > been consolidated or restructured
> > There seemed to be templates included in the demo which had been
> > replaced by "prefered" methods in the documentation.
> >
> > I would have been better off if the time spent on creating the
> > tutorial had been spent on writing documentation.
> > I know that Apache is capable of writing good documentation. I use
> > the HTTP server and Tomcat. They have pretty good documentation.
> >
> > A Wiki would be a good start and would allow the ignorant to at least
> > document our misconceptions. The gurus could have a good laugh and a
> > place of correct us.
> [mondo top posting snippage..]
>
> My personal view is that wiki's kind of suck for this sort of thing
> becuase you have very minimal quality control. Wiki's frequently become
> disjointed collections, e.g. person #1 started a node "here", but
> person #2 didn't see it and starts onother node on very similar topic
> "there".  Additionally, with Wiki's you have no guarantee that the
> author actually knows what they're talking about even if they might
> have the ability to sound like they do.  As a sysadmin who uses and
> evaluates numerous open source tools, I've had to comb through mor than
> a few wiki based documentation projects.  Without some management and
> oversight, they rapidly deteriorate into real pita's.
>
> That said, a little bird told me that Bluesunrise does have wiki
> capabilities.  With Jetspeed 2 looming on the horizon, however, I
> suspect investing a whole lot of time in Jetspeed 1 documentation isn't
> too high on the list of priorities.  I think the Jetspeed 2 group has
> someone dedicated to working on docs, but maybe Scott, Jeremy,
> David,et.al can comment??
>
> My $0.02
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Ken Gunderson
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>
> "Freedom begins between the ears."      -- Edward Abbey
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