Kevin,
I can make a header logo for you if you like with the URL at the bottom or 
wherever it will look best.  But for button icons that people can put on 
their website, which would include a link to the Jetspeed site, there is 
not enough room (IMO).  Not to sound argumentative, but if the icon points 
to the website, regardless of the URL, what is the point of having the URL 
address in the logo?  Once they are on the site, like what they see, they 
can bookmark the page.   A logo is for branding a product, service or 
company.  I could create a logo for co-branding, letting people know that 
it is part of the Apache group if that is what you are trying to accomplish.


On a standards guideline, I think that they are important, so if people use 
a logo on their own accord to get something made it is consistent 
perspective and color wise.  One advantage as well, if there is ever an 
article printed by the press, which includes the logo, they will know the 
exact cymk and dimensions values to use.  By the way, shirts are pretty 
inexpensive.  I had some made for our company, and for a Hanes Long Sleeve 
T-shirt, with 3 imprints it was around 10 dollars a shirt.  There is a 
one-time 60-dollar setup fee and the minimum order is 12.

On the primitives, can you work with EPS files and convert them to 
GIF?  Since GIF images are indexed, when you resize them, they get 
distorted and pixilated.  Or if you let me know ahead of time what the 
height and width are in pixels I can create the gifs for you.  I work in 
PhotoShop and Illustrator.

Thanks for your help on the logo design, while I may not agree 100% with 
you, I appreciate and encourage the feedback.

Best Regards,
Dave






Thanks for your message at 03:14 PM 2/16/00 -0800, Kevin A. Burton.
>Dave Blackett wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for your message at 02:36 AM 2/16/00 -0800, Kevin A. Burton.
> >
> > >- How about the JetSpeed url somewhere in there
> > >(http://java.apache.org/jetspeed)
> >
> > Well, logo's are used for branding, so we are trying to create an identity
> > for Jetspeed.  The logo would link to the Jetspeed web page
> > anyway.  Someday the url might change.
>
>The URL will never change.  If it does we can redirect it.  There was an
>old URL for Jetspeed that ran from my home machine but if you hit that
>you go to java.apache.org automatically.
>
><snip>
> > I can create a bunch of different size logo's that can be used for web page
> > headers, sidebars and footers.  Could even go as far as creating a
> > standards text file with guidelines.  And eps or tif version would be nice
> > if someone wanted to get a shirt or coffee mug printed.
>
>:)  That might be a little overkill right now.  Although it would be
>cool to have a Jetspeed shirt!
>
> > >So maybe we should work on doing some primitives that can be swapped
> > >around.  Specifically it would be cool to have a "Welcome to Jetspeed"
> > >logo when you first logon.
> >
> > Let me know what the format should be and I can make them.
>
>So maybe just a couple basic gifs.  One with the background, one with
>the wording, one with the swoosh.  Then we can just resize these and
>combine them to make new logos for different mediums.
>
>--
>Kevin A Burton
>http://relativity.yi.org
>Linux - The revolution will NOT be televised
>

--
Dave Blackett
UNIX is user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are.


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