Mark Nickel wrote:
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> YES!  +2^10 to Kevin!  Thanks so much for this nice synopsis of
> documentable areas!

Thanks :)
 
<snip>
> If a person were so inclined to write such documentation, would it be best
> to utilize the Stylebook stuff?  There's been a substantial thread on the
> cocoon users list relating to the "preferred" documentation form:
> Stylebook vs. Docbook.   I guess I'm planning on moving the stuff I've put
> into Jyve/Jetspeed Faq-o-matic into one of these two forms.  For now I
> imagine Stylebook would be preferred.  Is this an accurate statement?

Stylebook.

-1 on Docbook.  It is tooooo big and is still SGML.  It is overkill for
light documentation.  
 
> I should be able to figure out Stylebook from the examples in build.xml but
> if there are any other sources of "how-to" information, I'd be most
> interested to know.

Just see ./xdocs and build.xml.  That is all you really need.  It is
easy :)
 
> [RT]
> I'm the so called "r&d guy" at the company where I work.  We are planning
> on using Jetspeed/Cocoon/Turbine/ECS in some fasion for our own
> Intranet/Extranet  (sorry for the marketing-laden words  :)  )  And I need
> to be able to show results for my time invested in learning the API.  Right
> now I feel that I can't produce anything using Jetspeed directly (many
> factors:  java newbie, servlet newbie, etc), but I hope that by trying to
> assemble some Jetspeed-esk HelloWorld examples, I will be able to show how
> our company will be able to achieve a significant Intranet/Extranet without
> having to shell out $125K+ for an development environment.   Some examples
> likes what Turbine provides would be most affective.

Just write a basic Portlet and put it in defaultPortlets.xml.
 
> We want to do things like provide a portlet that our customers would be
> able to use to inquire on raw material that we have onhand that is
> available for processing.  Maybe a portlet that would allow them to view
> their open orders.  Things like that, are they beyond the scope of Jetspeed
> and more in the realm of Cocoon?  I don't know that is why I seek your
> opinions and advice.

You can do that with Cocoon.  It would probably be easier.  Jetspeed is
really more for a Portal.  It might be overkill if you just want to
serve up some basic docs.
 
> I still keep mulling over the question, "Is Jetspeed ready for use by users
> like me?"    I know that Cocoon/Turbine/ECS are ready and usable, but do
> you feel that the Jetspeed API is functional for creating portals by people
> who are not directly involved with the enhancement of the Jetspeed API?  I
> mean, as of right now, I wouldn't be able to change the look and feel of
> the defautPortlet website.  I know where in the code the navigation bar is
> created, but I don't know how to change it.

Yes.  But there certainly is room for improvement.  One of the things I
want to get implemented is per-user portlet subscriptions.  Just haven't
had time to hack on it.  Hopefully in 1.2.

Also, look over ./docs/misc/TODO.  There might be something that that is
broken and could help you determine if JS is what you need.
 
> PS.  What is Avalon?  (As it relates to Turbine and XML databases) and
>        What is UML?

http://java.apache.org/framework and http://www.rational.com/uml

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