Title: RE: [Integration of Cocoon and Jetspeed; is Turbine a liability?]

> > This is my very first concern: is Turbine a liability to Jetspeed?
> > I have been looking at Turbine for a few days now, and it strikes
> > me as a brittle design; there are two areas where this shows:
>
> > 1. You can't CLEANLY have more than one application based on Turbine
> >    running concurrently.
>
> I've heard this on the Turbine list also, but I don't see it.
>  We are running
> multiple turbine applications in the same zone and also in
> different zones.
> The only issue is authentication/authorization, and that is
> only when you are
> in different zones ( your session doesn't pass between zones under
> jserv/tomcat ).  There has been talk of potential solutions
> to this also.  I
> think it is very clean to run multiple turbine applications
> concurrently, and
> have.  Actually, jetspeed itself is a turbine application,
> then the admin
> application within jetspeed is a turbine application also. 
> They both run
> "concurrently" within the same zone: no problem.

Ok. It seems the only problem is with sharing user authentication
and session information among the multiple apps, right? And, from
what you say, this will be addressed "properly" within Turbine,
right?

> > 2. The basic page layout (top navigation, bottom navigation, etc.)
> >    is dictated by the framework (please correct me if I'm wrong).
>
> Wrong, this is totally extensible, even without coding: using
> a template
> language.  Currently this is one of the best frameworks I've
> seen for web
> applications.

Ok, great! What template languages are available? Is Webmacro one
of them? What if I want to use Cocoon-like XML/XSL templating here?
Any free (Apache-style) languages come to mind?

> I know I just responded to a portion of your message, but it
> was all I really
> could offer of substance.  We see Turbine growing stronger
> than ever, and
> foresee alot more applications based on it in the future.  It
> was designed for
> programming ease and expandability.  It is serving us nicely.

Do you have pointers to any Turbine-based examples? Someone mentioned
the examples directory in the distribution, but that has examples
tailored for (what seem to be) specific Turbine add-ons (Webmacro,
Freemarker, etc.); any "pure" turbine examples? I have also looked
into Jetspeed and Jyve as examples, but they are rather complex...

> just another 3 cents.
>
> Jeff Brekke

Lots of thanks for your input!


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