"Schwarz, Marcus" wrote:
>
> OK, I can understand your position. But the problem is the following:
> if you want to bring application specific stuff into the UM you will
> have a tight integration. I'm sure the most companies will have
> existing User Managements. They will not replace them with Turbine -
yes.. but in a way they will. They will just use the Turbine
abstraction. The underlying impl might be LDAP, Active Directory.
X.500, NIS, etc.
> that's too much work. Additionaly it's a tough job to build up a company-
> wide user management system: replacement without any really very good
> arguments is simply to expensive.
Note that when you use Turbine auth you really aren't required to use
its DB implementation. Just the abstraction. :)
> Now imagine that we are bringing application specific stuff like the
> information about portlets (we would need to store the information which
> portlets are existing and what permissions are related to it into Turbine)
> into Turbine thru an well-defined API. Then each company would have to
> extend their existing user management solution (in many cases that would
> be 3. party with no chance to extend) with this API to enable the
> authorization.
> That's simply not feasible.
No. Just the meta info should go within Jetspeed. It would rely on
Turbine auth... then we can have Turbine support whatever authentication
mechanism you want.
> I think it's better to make a seperation; to just let the UM (--> Turbine or
> anything
> else) handle information who is logged in and which roles are assigned.
> If your are bringing this functionality to Turbine it would be (maybe) good
> for Turbine -
> but very bad for JetSpeed, because the most companies would not be able to
> use it
> without replacing their UM.
>
<snip>
Turbine wouldn't require the companies to change... The company would
make Turbine change. :). It is setup that way :)
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