Along with the descriptive audio now being provided with Netflix originals, this is much welcomed progress. The one feature I would really like, is the ability to sync two separate feeds for simultaneous viewing. I.E. if you and a sighted companion or companions wish to watch something together, one feed could be the normal one and the second feed could be the audio described version. Throwing on some headphones like in the theatre and still being able to enjoy a film or series with description with privacy would be a major plus. I guess the ideal solution would be some sort of iOS or other portable set up with a mobile device or with bluetooth headphones, but I'd even be happy with stringing some headphones to a laptop just to have this ability. Even getting one of those cheapy Windows tablets and a bluetooth headset for more flexibility could be an option. I don't know if something like this could even be possible. I could only imagine that access would need to be granted to the secondary device's microphone. Similar to how iOS apps function. I do recall reading a few months ago an article regarding a Chrome add on that enabled the synchronizing of two Netflix feeds for family and friends and long distance relationship viewing. It supposedly took out the hassel of always trying to manually syncing feeds by counting down and allowed folks to pause and rewind and fast forward seemlessly without losing synchronization. Anyway... one can hope.
-----Original Message----- From: John Martyn [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NetflixScripting from DoItBlind Yes, I have the drop down already in programming. Locking down the volume will take sighted assistance. But I got full screen working in case you are entertaining. There are other controls to this thing such as the play pause button that I need sighted assistance for too. It is coming along nicely. One thing I am experimenting with is the ability to view all the playable movies in a single list such as the virtual viewer or probably the results viewer more liekly since it supports more than links. There is a ton of stuff you can do with this thing. Few years back and some programming knowledge learned, it wasn't possible. Now it is within our reach finally. The language selector is a group box that is readily viewable and also subtitles can be controlled too. John On 11/30/2015 10:25 PM, Nicole Massey wrote: > This is probably something you've already dealt with, but you'll be able to > change audio feeds too, right? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Martyn [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:53 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: NetflixScripting from DoItBlind >> >> so far it is going well. naturally I went for the video interface and >> controlling it. I can rewind and fast forward with a spoken time code. >> Next comes the volume. Other special features will help you navigate >> the site and allow you to move seamlessly through the site. Things like >> what is viewable right now and the seasons lined up in an easy format. >> The code is all UIA which means 15 and up, however to take advantage of >> all the perks I have designed this with jaws 17 in mind, though it is >> possible to rename things for IE using jaws 15 and up. Nice being able >> to move about the movie seamlessly. Couldn't do that before. >> JohnOK, >> >> >> On 11/30/2015 8:53 PM, Loreal via Groups.io wrote: >> >> >> That would be incredible if you could script for Netflix! I would >> certainly be willing to try it out and see just how well it works. >> Thank you for all of your hard work and all of your continuing efforts! >> >> >> >> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5 >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: John Martyn <[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Date: 11/30/2015 8:29 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: NetflixScripting from DoItBlind >> >> JAWS 17 has enhanced the ability to script websites, it becomes >> clear that what I tried years ago is now possible with the Web >> programming and UIA scripting. I plan to script netflix in the coming >> month. >> Cheers, >> John Martyn >> DoItBlind.comAs >> >> >> On 11/30/2015 5:13 PM, Lisa-Maree wrote: >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> About Netflix and accessing the next season of TV shows. >> >> >> >> If you, by using the normal left and right arrows on the >> keyboard, sit on the letter S of where it states the line Season plus >> its number, press enter, then arrow down, you will get to the episodes >> of that season. There are work arounds, but if the screen reader >> doesn’t say the obvious, they can’t be found. I have windows 10, jaws >> 17, and I tried this with IE11. >> >> >> >> I can see the screen to a degree, and how the screen is >> laid out to how jaws often reads it, does not always match. >> >> >> >> Lisa-Maree >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Joshua Hori [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 6:03 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a >> laptop and screen reading software. >> >> >> >> Using Windows 7, JAWS 16 and Firefox. Full disclosure: I’m >> a sited user with screenreader experience. (I prefer Firefox since I >> get the best experience with a screenreader) >> >> >> >> It seems that Netflix isn’t providing “focus" on content >> once selected. For instance, I can navigate the site using a >> screenreader by headers and/or links, (I bring up the links list and >> look for “Audio Descriptions” and press enter, then I bring up the >> links list again and navigate the list of movies that are now >> available) but once I find a movie I would like to watch, I press >> enter, but can’t access the new menu that drops down to play the >> content, it just keeps navigating to the next movie. The work around is >> to immediately bring up the headers, navigate to the header that’s >> listed and press enter, which then allows me to access the content >> within the dropdown (press tab once to access the play link). >> >> >> >> TV shows are difficult to navigate as they all state “Play >> link” (instead of “play episode 8”) and do not announce the episode >> without using the arrow keys (press down a couple of times to hear more >> about the episode). For TV seasons there is a dropdown button to change >> seasons using the mouse, but I can’t locate the button with a >> screenreader without using the virtual cursor, and I can’t access the >> dropdown menu with a keyboard at all. You can access other episodes >> using the “see previous titles Button” and “see more titles Button” >> (bring up the form fields list to easily find these), but this is only >> for the season displayed. >> >> >> >> I hope this helps some. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> Joshua >> >> >> >> From: Daniel McBride [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:37 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a >> laptop and screen reading software. >> >> >> >> Hello Tim: >> >> >> >> Can you please clarify the accessibility issue we need >> address with Netflix? On my Toshiba laptop, using Windows 8 and JAWS >> 14, I can get onto Netflix, manage to utilize the Search field, find >> the movie, documentary or television program I desire and get it to >> play. This is without Audio Description. And I am not able to select a >> specific season and episode of a television program, such as Star Trek >> Next Generation. I am simply stuck with playing whichever season and >> episode is next up in my account. >> >> >> >> I am going to email Netflix as requested in your email >> here. I just want to be clear about what our hurdles are as blind >> persons using Netflix. I will also add that I am a Rhapsody Music >> subscriber and the problems with Rhapsody are worse than Netflix, if >> anyone is interested. >> >> >> >> Thanks for your efforts. >> >> >> >> Dan McBride >> >> Fort Worth, Texas >> >> >> >> From: Tim Ford [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:05 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a >> laptop and screen reading software. >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> For those out there who want to use Netflix, here is an >> email I received last evening that contains instructions on how to >> contact the right people. As mentioned in the note, Netflix is still >> not very interested in fixing things, and your continued emails to >> Netflix are encouraged to keep some pressure on them. >> >> >> >> Tim Ford >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Accessible Netflix Project team >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:46 PM >> >> To: Tim Ford <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a >> laptop and screen reading software. >> >> >> >> This is kate! I am so sorry that your email has not been >> replied to yet but we get a ton, and I mean, a ton of email. Robert >> Kingett is the CEO and we are still trying to make them see what you >> highlighted as well as others. To be quite frank, they would rather not >> even bother with us, but we keep emailing and calling and bugging them, >> professionally, I may add. In our experience, we never hear a sincere, >> sorry! Let's work on these layout designs for JAWS OR NVDA users and I >> doubt we will unless we keep pushing them like we have been doing. >> Would you like to email Robert Kingett, He can give you more contacts >> than I can. I am just the email manager. :) Below is a message we just >> got that may help. >> >> Hi, >> >> Hope you're well and thanks for your e-mail. >> >> Going forward, can I suggest you contact Marlee Tart in the >> global PR team please (her e-mail address is: [email protected]). >> >> From your recent queries it's clear that your questions are >> at global scale as opposed to regional/local, and this e-mail address >> reaches the Australian and New Zealand PR agency team (and we don't >> actually have visibility into a lot of the areas you're interested in). >> >> I've dropped Marlee a line to let her know you'll be in >> touch. >> >> Best, >> >> L. >> >> >> >> On 6/24/2015 5:32 PM, Tim Ford wrote: >> >> To Whom It May Concern, >> >> >> >> Below I have pasted in an email I sent Monday to what >> is supposedly the engineering group for Netflix; a Netflix telephone >> representative gave me the address. Today someone told me about your >> group, and I applaude you for your efforts that certainly seem to be >> the motivating factor for Netflix to start providing AD. Please let me >> know if you have any suggestions on any of the issues covered in my >> post below. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Tim Ford >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Tim Ford <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:57 PM >> >> To: <mailto:[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> >> Cc: <mailto:[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> >> Subject: Netflix not accessible to blind people using >> a laptop and screen reading software. >> >> >> >> Dear Netflix, >> >> >> >> I am blind, and use a Windows 7 laptop. Up until a >> week or so ago, your web site was extremely hard to navigate, but at >> least I could start a video. Now, after your web page design changes >> implemented a few days ago, I cannot even start a video. >> >> >> >> I am using the latest update of JAWS version 16; JAWS >> is the world’s most widely used screen reading software for the blind. >> I tried accessing your service with IE, Firefox, and Chrome, but could >> not get a video to start. With IE, I cannot even activate my profile. >> >> >> >> I am a fairly experienced Internet user, and if there >> is a way to navigate your site with a screen reader, I have not figured >> it out. I am using the recommended common settings for JAWS, and I >> have no problems with some other video streaming services. >> >> >> >> Back a few weeks ago, Netflix announced the addition >> of audio description. That is a great move, and I applaud you for >> that. However, in a very ironic twist, it is not possible for a blind >> person to select the audio described version, even though one is on the >> part of your site that contains only audio described programs. Why add >> that extra step? If one is on the audio description page, the user >> obviously wants the audio described version, so why not make that the >> default? >> >> >> >> In general, there seems to be a huge gap between your >> marketing department and the technology group. Netflix marketing is >> advertising this new and wonderful audio description service, but a >> blind person simply cannot navigate the site, especially after the >> rollout of your new web page design. >> >> >> >> In closing, I am using a Windows laptop, and I do not >> have a smart phone. The issues I am asking you to please fix are just >> for us old-fashioned blind folks using a Windows computer. >> >> >> >> I know from experience that screen reader >> accessibility is a very narrow specialty and skill set, so if you do >> not have such an expert on staff, you could either hire one or contract >> with one of the accessibility consultant experts that will help you >> become and stay accessible. >> >> >> >> I am happy to volunteer by helping you test any >> changes; I have done that in the past for a number of web service >> companies. Please advise, and much thanks. >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Tim Ford >> >> Phone: 916-538-6415 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- JFW related links: JFW homepage: http://www.freedomscientific.com/ JFW List instructions: To post a message to the list, send it to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to [email protected] Archives located at: http://www.groups.io/g/jfw/threads Alternative archives located at: http://n2.nabble.com/JAWS-for-Windows-f2145279.html If you have any concerns about the list, posts received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list. Rather contact the list owner at [email protected]. -=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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