Hi, Douglas. I am using the latest Firefox with JAWS13. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: douglas richard dexheimer To: jfw@groups.io Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 12:54 PM Subject: Re: problems with firefox plugins and sites using flash
i use nvda with firefox; the latest jaws (13) that i was eligible for doesn't support firefox 40 or over. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 19, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Brad Martin <b...@formyfriends.org> wrote: I had read something that I can't put my finger on which has to do with JAWS and Flash. There's some security setting in Flash that conflicts with JAWS or something and causes these crashes. I haven't tested it, but I got the impression if we didn't have JAWS running the stream would work just fine. I've found that using Adblock (which no longer works with Firefox for the same reason other add-ons don't) and now Adblock Plus (which does work with Firefox) stopped those crashes for me. For what it's worth, Brad Martin On 12/19/2015 12:16 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote: How do i turn it off? is there a workaround for flash to avoid the "adobe flash plugin crashed" message, and allow the music to play? Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 cell phone 913-244-0612 dricha...@earthlink.net On 12/19/2015 12:09 PM, Farfar on Laptop wrote: So to carry on, make sure to turn off the automatic updates in Firefox before you get caught with version 43 or 44. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> To: <jfw@groups.io> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 10:06 AM Subject: Re: problems with firefox plugins and sites using flash No, this was not done in error, and it will not be corrected in a future release, either, as I explained in my previous message. Starting with Firefox 43, Mozilla requires all add-ons to be signed for security reasons. Webvisum is an unsigned third-party add-on that was abandoned years ago by its developers who no longer even bother to respond to email inquiries, and so it will not work with Firefox 43 unless you apply the temporary work around I explained in my previous message. So if you already have a working version of Webvisum with an earlier release of Firefox, do not update to Firefox 43. Starting with Firefox 44 and the next release of Firefox ESR, Webvisum will no longer work at all, no matter what you try, because this temporary work around will be disabled or permenantly unflagged. Webvisum's days are apparently numbered and except for Rumola, which is a paid service, there is no other alternative for solving image captchas without sighted help. Gerald -----Original Message----- From: Bill White Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 12:53 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: problems with firefox plugins and sites using flash You are correct. It appears that the latest Firefox update disabled several AdOns for security reasons. One of these was WebVisum. This may have been done in error, and may be corrected in a future update. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "douglas richard dexheimer" <dricha...@earthlink.net> To: <jfw@groups.io> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 9:39 AM Subject: problems with firefox plugins and sites using flash happy holidays all. recently i've been experiencing adobe flash player crashes on certain streaming audio sites. it started last wednesday; i've tried several different settings in about:config to see if this would fix the issue. sometimes it would, other times it wouldn't. this crash problem only applies to certain sites that use flash content, not all. also the webvisum plugin no longer seems to work; i don't hear any popping noises when loading a page in firefox. i'm not sure which about:configuration settings i need to make all web pages using flash behave properly, or how to reactivate the webvisum plugin. worse case scenario: if i have to uninstall and reinstall firefox (43.0.1) to restore default plugin settings, i wouldn't know where to find the download link or file for reinstalling it; what about saving all my bookmarks and passwords, so i won't have to start all over from scratch, or try to select "forgot username/password" on pages where i don't remember those credentials? i know a tech savvy friend who lives here who could provide some feedback. thanks. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 cell phone 913-244-0612 dricha...@earthlink.net -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: latest Firefox version that supports adobe flash player Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:02:31 -0700 From: Bill White <billwhite92...@dslextreme.com> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <j...@lists.the-jdh.com> CC: douglas richard dexheimer <dricha...@earthlink.net> Flash protected mode is a security feature for Firefox which is implemented by Adobe for Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or above). This feature is enabled by default, to make it difficult for attackers to access your computer. Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance problems in Firefox, such as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is especially true for users on Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use accessibility tools. You can turn off Flash protected mode by following these steps: 1. Press Control plus l to open the Location bar, type about:config and press Enter. . The about:config "This might void your warranty!" warning page may appear. Click I'll be careful, I promise! to continue to the about:config page. 2. Search for dom.ipc.plugins.flash.disable-protected-mode in the list of preferences. 3. Press Enter on the preference to toggle its value from false to true. 4. Press CONTROL plus W to close the about:config window. 5. Close Firefox, and re-launch Firefox for the new setting to take effect. Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw" <j...@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <j...@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "douglas richard dexheimer" <dricha...@earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:32 AM Subject: Re: latest Firefox version that supports adobe flash player where do i find the checkbox to enable or disable flash protection? Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 cell phone 913-244-0612 dricha...@earthlink.net On 9/21/2015 9:38 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote: Great sleuthing, astounding Adobe message. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert Logue via Jfw Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Robert Logue Subject: Re: latest firefox version that supports adobe flash player I'm curious about turning off Flash and why we should disable it. Didn't know labels worked better in Youtube without it. Thing is do we disable or set to ask to activate? I decided to look in to this. Found a checkbox for Flash in Firefox that wasn't labeled so I read more and found something we should know about. I'll paste it below without comment. Adobe Flash protected mode in Firefox | Firefox Help (Redirected from Enable Flash Protected Mode Settings on Firefox) Flash protected mode is a security feature for Firefox which is implemented by Adobe for Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or above). This feature is enabled by default, to make it difficult for attackers to access your computer. Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance problems in Firefox, such as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is especially true for users on Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use accessibility tools. On 9/21/2015 6:50 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote: No, it's not a security issue. Like I said, if you had said you were getting an error that Flash was disabled, that would have been the problem. I have noticed that Firefox seems to crash a bit with video embedded sites lately. Honestly, what I've found that helped me was installing an add-on called Adblock. I installed it at the recommendation of a friend, but when I did, almost all my crashing problems stopped. You can download it at www.getadblock.com if you want it. It has fixed most of my issues. Brad On 9/20/2015 10:15 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote: I can still listen to the stations or videos in question on my iphone; sometimes when I get a crash message in FF (on my win7 computer using nvda) I try the link in my ot her browsers--sometimes it works, other times not. other browsers may get unresponsive, or show the controls but no sound is heard from the embedded player. I'll get a message like "embedded object unavailable." why would flash's security diminish with later versions of firefox--i.e., why did those sites work in earlier ff versions on my older windows xp computer, but not in the current version on my new windows 7 machine? Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 cell phone 913-244-0612 dricha...@earthlink.net On 9/20/2015 9:28 PM, Brad Martin wrote: Sorry you didn't get my response from a few days ago. Trying again... What I wrote regarding Firefox 40.0.3 was: That should work. I thought you were going to say the buttons weren't reading for you correctly, because that is often the case with Firefox. Flash reads better with Internet Explorer. If you're getting a message that Flash is disabled, it suggests that there is a security flaw in Flash and Firefox is blocking access to it until Adobe releases a patched version of Flash. If it's crashing, that's a beast of another color. Brad b...@formyfriends.org On 9/20/2015 8:58 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw wrote: did anyone get this yet? I've gotten no response so far. Douglas Richard Dexheimer Chief of Braille Productions Born-Again Productions The Friedman Place, Apt.308 5527 N. Maplewood Ave. Chicago, IL 60625 cell phone 913-244-0612 dricha...@earthlink.net On 9/15/2015 3:22 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote: using firefox 40.0.3; what is the latest version that supports afp? on some websites that use flash content (youtube, spotify, live365, video streaming sites with embedded objects or players, etc.) I get a popup saying the adobe flash plug-in has crashed. the same site may or may not work on other browsers such as IE, chrome or webbIE. uninstalling and reinstalling afp didn't improve things. thanks for your feedback. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list j...@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -- Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org <mailto:b...@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons> My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list j...@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list j...@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list j...@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12292 (20150922) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12292 (20150922) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12748 (20151219) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12748 (20151219) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- Brad Martin b...@formyfriends.org My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons My SmarterBucks signup link __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12748 (20151219) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12748 (20151219) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com