The market will probably take care of them in time--karma!  You can bet if 
they're that hardheaded on one issue, it probably isn't the only one.  After 
all, Fords come in many colors these days besides black.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maria Campbell [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

The best cure for ignorance may be knowledge, but that only works if those  
ignorant aren't beyond reason.  This is because you cannot reason with the 
unreasonable.  Sadly, there will always be those who will not listen or learn.


On 1/7/2016 1:27 PM, Lisle, Ted  (CHFS DMS) wrote:
> When you come down to it, this kind of problem is outside of most folks’
> frame of reference—they don’t think of it, because they don’t 
> experience it.  While I agree that you can always tell a bigot, but 
> you can’t tell him much, most don’t understand our problems only 
> because they were never explained; the best cure for ignorance is knowledge.
>
> Ted
>
> *From:*Brian Vogel [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:22 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: What is the issue with Captchas?
>
> Cindy Ray,
>
>             You are entitled to your anger, which is justifiable, but 
> not to your assertion that Captchas value at thwarting hackers is 
> "dubious at best."  They functioned (and function) brilliantly at 
> preventing machine-based attacks of all sorts.  They were and are a 
> brilliant idea that had "the law of unintended consequences" attached.
>   They've also been modified with audio, at least genuine Captcha 
> captchas have, due to accessibility concerns.
>
>             Gerald's assertion is dubious, at best, as advocacy from 
> individuals and groups is precisely what has driven the changes that 
> have already occurred and continue to occur.  When it comes down to it 
> the old adage, "It's not all about you," (and that's for the generic
> you) applies here.  Businesses and entities are only trying to protect 
> themselves and their assets, and, by extension, their clients.  There 
> is no malicious intent and there is far more awareness, and 
> responsiveness, with regard to accessibility issues when those are identified.
>
>             There is no "one size fits all" solution to any problem, 
> and there is no utility in creating a completely permeable barrier 
> when a partial barrier is actually needed.  Input from those 
> negatively affected is an incredibly valuable and necessary part of 
> working through some issues that really had not been anticipated.
>
> 

-- 

Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
[email protected]

Be patient with God:  Be patient with yourself:  Be patient with others.




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