Brian and team, You are just God send!!! Was fumbling around with my new hp and causing rakas everywhere and no one was understanding! then I decide to check my email and and right there on top most was brian's email. !! What a coincident... I was just thrilled! cheers
On 2/2/16, Soronel Haetir <[email protected]> wrote: > Recent HP laptops are set to automatically install BIOS updates, you > have to disable it if you don't want them. > > On 2/1/16, Russell Solowoniuk <[email protected]> wrote: >> Interesting! I never thought of that. I haven't updated the BIOS since >> purchasing my laptop. If I do update the BIOS and mess up my function >> keys, >> I will just take it to work and get one of my co-workers to fix it for >> me! >> :) >> >> Thanks, >> >> Russell >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Moore [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 3:33 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Action Keys Mode - A Warning to Those Buying Certain New >> Laptops >> >> Hi, >> My wife bought me a HP stream for Christmas, I love it except for the >> functions going back to having to hold down the FN key to get F1 through >> F12. Have a great one. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Soronel Haetir >> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 12:44 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Action Keys Mode - A Warning to Those Buying Certain New >> Laptops >> >> Unfortunately this is only a temporary fix, at least for HP laptops. >> HP laptops revert whenever the bios is updated and that has happened >> several times with the one I have now. Thankfully I live with a seeing >> eye human so when that happens getting it fixed is fairly easy. >> >> >> On 1/31/16, Russell Solowoniuk <[email protected]> wrote: >>> When I purchased my Lenovo Yoga Pro 2 laptop a little over a year ago >>> from >>> Future Shop, I had the tech guys there go into the bios and set the >>> function >>> keys to behave the way I needed for Jaws use. I had a bit of a fight to >>> get >>> them to do this, but insisted they do it or I would purchase the laptop >>> somewhere where they would do it for me. It took the tech guy all of 3 >>> minutes to do this. Don’t forget, when you are spending good money, that >>> you >>> have a right to have your laptop set up in a way that will work for you. >>> It’s much easier to get them to do it before the sale is made! :). >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Russell >>>> On Jan 31, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Brian Vogel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> For all I know the following may apply to some desktops and/or >>>> all-in-ones, too, but I've not yet encountered it in these >>>> environments. >>>> >>>> Since the beginning of the laptop, convention had been that the >>>> function >>>> keys across the very top of the keyboard required the Fn key that's >>>> nested >>>> along the very bottom of the keyboard to be held before hitting a given >>>> function key to make it perform whatever function the manufacturer >>>> defines >>>> for that key. Most people are familiar with function keys to do things >>>> like: volume up, volume down, mute, wireless on/off, brightness up, >>>> brightness down, etc. >>>> >>>> There is a new feature that HP, at least, calls "Action Keys Mode" >>>> which >>>> turns this convention on its head. When activated, this makes a simple >>>> press of a given function key trigger its function rather than being >>>> passed along to whatever application as a key press. This can have >>>> some >>>> "interesting" effects for screen reader users. This function is >>>> currently >>>> enabled by default on my laptop and the F6 key so happens to be the >>>> Mute >>>> on/off toggle key. When using NVDA, if I press F6 it simply toggles >>>> the >>>> mute state. In order to make it behave as F6 normally would I must hit >>>> Fn+F6. This does not apply if the SHIFT is pressed along with F6 in >>>> order >>>> to reverse the direction. That works perfectly well. I can only >>>> imagine >>>> the chaos this could unleash if you start using the various commands >>>> that >>>> employ the function keys on a system with Action Keys Mode activated. >>>> >>>> Action Keys Mode can be disabled, but it is controlled via UEFI/BIOS. >>>> On >>>> my machine one disables it by activating the UEFI menu by doing a >>>> repeated >>>> ESC key press during boot and selecting F10 choice. Once the >>>> old-fashioned BIOS-like screen pops up, you have to transition to the >>>> System Configuration pane and arrow to the Action Keys Mode entry and >>>> disable it. Since this is done well before the operating system is >>>> even >>>> involved, I don't know of a single screen reader that could be active >>>> to >>>> accomplish the task. >>>> >>>> Since this mode is controlled by the hardware ahead of any intervention >>>> by >>>> anything else, you must disable it if you wish your function keys to >>>> operate "the way they always have." >>>> >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Soronel Haetir >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Soronel Haetir > [email protected] > > > > -- ERIC N. NGONDI +254 720 963 825 Skype: ericngondi Email: [email protected] Alt. Email: [email protected] YALI - Mandela Washington Fellow 2014 Ambassador - Kenya Society for The Blind (KSB) Chairman - Vision Center for Disable Kenya VCDK "The vision must be followed by the venture. 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