Just in passing, I think PayPal is written with two capital P's.  Otherwise, it 
sounds like something from the Holy Sea

Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: Brent Harding [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 2:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: How Can Sighted People Tell Where I Am At on a Screen in JAWS?

I remember how much fun it wasn't trying to get through adjusting some Paypal 
settings when I had to call them, as the control to get where devices are is 
not something I could find. Luckily, they were able to do what needed to be 
done from their end, as the problem was that my push notifications became 
disabled with no way to turn it back on.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marten Post Uiterweer" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: How Can Sighted People Tell Where I Am At on a Screen in JAWS?


Hi Brian,

True. A few weeks ago, a sighted person talked me through a webpage. The
brailleviewer was on, so he saw what Jaws was showing, but he had to
compare it wit the webpage each time to see, where I was on the page.

Regards, Marten

On Mon, 01 Feb 2016 11:36:45 -0800 "Brian Vogel" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> On Mon, Feb  1, 2016 at 11:24 am, Marten Post Uiterweer 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> The brailleviewer is verry usefull. Ofcource it will not show things in
> braille. It will show the text that is also shown on a brailledisplay
> and a brailledisplay will show what Jaws speaks, so the brailleviewer
> will also show what is spoken. Not completely, but for the most part.
>
> Marten,
>
> This can indeed be very useful in its own right, but take it from a 
> sighted helper, it doesn't solve the original problem posed. Most of us 
> can tell precisely what JAWS is reading and saying, the problem is we have 
> absolutely no idea where that is on the web page itself. If you're on a 
> text-rich webpage in particular, long wikipedia pages are an excellent 
> example, JAWS can be reading multiple scrolled pages ahead of what has 
> been left visible on the screen. Trying to figure out where that actually 
> is on the web page itself is often really a major production that breaks 
> both flow and train of thought for the listener.
>
> I still do not have a reply from FS Technical Support of whether there 
> actually is a practical way to make JAWS force Windows to scroll the web 
> browser such that what's being read corresponds to what an assistant can 
> actually see on the screen at that moment, at least somewhere on that 
> screen.
>
> Brian









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