Scorching.
Maria Campbell
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When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
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On 2/4/2016 4:42 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
If it hasn't been said before, I will:
To learn how to teach JAWS, disconnect the mouse and turn off the screen.
At 03:53 PM 2/4/2016, you wrote:
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 01:34 pm, Jean Menzies <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree with the poster that a more appropriate use of language here
would be to “select†something, etc. In other words, name the
action/result, rather than referencing it through sighted jargon.
Jean,
At this point I'm convinced that, on both sides [so to
speak - this isn't a battle, it's an exchange of ideas] there is some
talking past each other going on.
I will say this, then I am going to let it go. I often,
probably more often than not, say "select" something when that's what
I want someone to do. I do, occasionally, slip and say "click on"
something when I would generally say "select" in the context of
tutoring. It simply happens. I've been a classroom instructor, too,
and you just find yourself occasionally (and, in that situation,
almost exclusively) using the jargon of the majority, and when it
comes to graphical user interfaces that majority is the sighted and
the jargon relates to what they (I/we) do. I am, however, acutely
aware of the context shift when I'm doing private tutoring and adjust
accordingly.
All I'm saying is that I think it's essential to teach my
students that should I, or anyone else assisting them, for that
matter, say "click on" something that this means "select" something.
I'm not doing anyone any favors by assiduously avoiding any incursion
of the most common computer use terminology because my student so
happens to be using a screen reader. I'm doing them a disservice if
I don't make the connection clear between what they will hear far
more commonly and what that means practically.
Now, from just what I've learned here, I'm actually shocked
at how few people have ever been formally taught about context menus
and their invocation via the right mouse click, whether one is using
an actual mouse or alternate input device to generate it. These
menus are things of beauty, and high efficiency, because they
generally are:
* presented as true menus, which virtually every screen-reader
user on this forum has claimed they like best.
* present only the things that are possible for the object type
you have focus on (though there can be stippled out items if their
actual use is not possible given the confluence of circumstances at
that moment).
And, finally, so that I can have people storming all over
me and decrying my breathing their air, it's about my making my
students maximally functional in the computer world, not the JAWS
world, as far as I'm concerned. That means making sure that they
understand concepts that others do one way that they will do another,
but so that when that concept is named that other way they absolutely
know what that means functionally to them. You can't, and shouldn't,
expect to operate in an assistive technology bubble.
Brian
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