I agree. I am just a newbie on this list, but I think that Brian’s observations regarding versions of Windows are very important. Remember, we have a double learning curve. Not only do we need to get used to the new Windows operating system, but we then have to learn to use JAW in the way that it reacts with the new Windows OS. I feel that his posts are right to the mark. They are great. Also, from just my perusing of the commands, if you don’t like the way a thread is going, I think there is a way to discontinue the receipt of a particular thread. I have done so with some, knowing I can revisit them at a later time. Just my 1.5 cents from a newbie Dinosaur. <wink>
From: judith bron [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 1:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows Shan, No, not every message on list is going to say precisely what you want to read but that’s a part of a list of this size. Brian has been bvery helpful to all of us and his posts never stray from computer use with assistive technology. One of the things you may not have noticed is that the listers don’t go around bad mouthing other listers. We appreciate Brian and everyone on this list who make working with our special technology easier for all of us. Judith From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: JAWS and Windows I guess you can lump me in there too. We could have taken our discussion off list, but we’ve both been using this stuff for a year or two, and thought our comments might be pertinent. Just about anything most of us say here is offered from a JAWS user’s perspective, as that’s precisely what we are; that’s how we got here. One man’s opinion: I enjoy Mr. Vogel’s observations, and have even benefitted from some of them. Ted From: Shan Noyes [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: New to the group Sorry about that I was just getting frustrated because if you look at Brian's last two emails there's nothing about jaws in them it's just his ranting on about why XP is good and why Windows 7 is good so I don't want to meet the thread because sometimes there's good jams the point I was trying to make is please keep down your rambling to make stuff pertinent specifically Brian Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2016, at 10:44 AM, Joseph Lee <[email protected]> wrote: Hello, I’d like to respectfully disagree: JAWS for Windows, when viewed from various angles, is a collection of data and code, hence it will behave like any piece of software installed on any operating system. Without proper support from an operating system such as Windows 7 and 10, JAWS would not have existed. For many blind folks out there, affording latest and greatest isn’t practical, hence the statement about reliance on XP and 7. Nor I think we should act like we have highest authority: I think given the nature of this thread and the fact that not many people know how to use Groups.IO account to manage certain things, asking people to mute threads (spoken in a way that gives possibly wrong impressions) might not be a good idea. Therefore, I think we should leave it up to James (our chief) to deal with this. Cheers, Joseph From: Shan Noyes [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: New to the group This is a jaws users list let's please try to stay on topic thank you Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Brian Vogel <[email protected]> wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 05:20 am, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <[email protected]> wrote: XP was—having a loyal user base that will stick until the bitter end. And for people who actually did that, I want them to recall precisely how bitter that end probably was when they had to make the leap. I know a number of people still using WinXP, but I also know that most wisely avoid doing anything online (e.g., online banking or the like) where the security compromises involved are huge. It's gotten to the point where most providers of sensitive web functions like online banking will block you from using them if your browser does not comply with current security standards, and nothing that runs on WinXP that I know of these days does. I have never, ever, been a bleeding edge adopter of anything. I always give a shake out period of several months to up to a year or so. But I also have never, ever been someone who thinks that clinging to the bitter end works out well, either, for reasons I've already stated in a prior message. Brian
