No, this wasn't a notetaker. It was a USB keyboard-- just the keyboard 
interface for a computer, but it was setup like a Braille keyboard only-- no 
qwerty functions. 

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> On Apr 12, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Mario Brusco <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> might you be talking about the braille edge?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Holloway" <[email protected]>
> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: Braille keyboard question. e
> 
> 
> The problem is more complicated than it may seem at first. There is a 
> problem (prat least a potential limit) referred to as "n-key rollover". When 
> you exceed the key limit, which varies from one keyboard to the next, 
> unpredictable things may happen. The computer may no longer see the first 
> keys pressed, with only the last particular (keyboard specific number of) 
> keys recognized. I have read the limit can be as low as three. (You don’t 
> typically chord keys at the EXACT same time, there are tiny differences in 
> when the contacts are made.)
> 
> The result is that only the last 3 (or 4, etc.) keys down will be seen. And 
> there is a second problem called “ghosting” (nothing to do with ghosting 
> braille on a Perkins). On some keyboards, extra “ghosted” keystrokes appear 
> to the computer depending on the physical position of the keys you actually 
> push— it has to do with the wiring matrix of the keyboard. These are extra 
> keys you didn’t actually push.
> 
> As to why this is an issue? Partly cost, but also lack of planning for 
> unusual applications of the hardware. It costs more to design keyboards that 
> can handle more keys at once, and the need is rare for qwerty typists. You 
> may see a need like ctrl + alt + delete often, but usually no more than 
> three keys are needed at once. The common exceptions are Braille 
> (obviously), musical applications (like playing a musical instrument, for 
> example, without a conventional MIDI trigger instrument available), and 
> certain types of computer gaming.
> 
> So the short answer is, even if you have software to solve your problem, 
> your hardware setup may or may not accept the physical input from the 
> keyboard. This will vary from one keyboard to the next, and so forth. 
> Try-before-you-buy, if possible.
> 
> Read more about limitations here:
> http://xahlee.info/comp/keyboard_key_ghosting.html
> 
> I did see a braille-style USB keyboard a while back— not like a Focus 40 (or 
> such) with a built-in display. It was just a straight row of keys to use 
> like on a braille notetaker but without a display. This setup had no n-key 
> rollover issue, but I’ll be darned if I can find it now with a web search. 
> If I run across it, I will post.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 7:50 PM, Sharon <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Doesn't Duxbury allow that?
>> It's been a long long time since I've used it.
>> Sharon
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Justin
>> McDevitt
>> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 3:47 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Braille keyboard question. e
>> 
>> Hello to all list members:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am a long-time braille reader and a proficient braille writer since 
>> grade
>> school.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As an alternative to the BrailleNote and the other note takers, which I
>> cannot afford to purchase right now, as a long-time braille writer, is 
>> there
>> a braille keyboard that I can purchase and connect to a laptop, using JAWS
>> and a braille translation program like Duxbury that I can use as an
>> alternative to the higher dollar braille note taking devices?
>> 
>> I know that I could buy a portable braille display which I believe has a
>> built-in keyboard, but again this would no doubt cost a couple of thousand
>> dollars.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On the other hand, is there a program that can convert specific keys on a
>> regular keyboard to the configuration of a braille keyboard which I could
>> connect to a laptop, for note taking?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I would appreciate any and all input.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Justin
>> 
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