Just out of curiosity, were you using eloquence as your synthesizer for both 
screen readers?

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> On May 9, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Lee Anne Atkinson via Jfw <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I too tried installing Window Eyes on my Windows 7 desktop, on which I also
> have JAWS.  It crashed my computer multiple times and I finally ended up
> uninstalling it.  I know other people use it successfully but am not sure if
> it is just Jaws, which I had turned off, and a Window Eyes conflict or
> something else.
> 
> Has anyone else been able to install Window Eyes and JAWS on the same
> computer without crashing?
> 
> Lee Anne 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
> via Jfw
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 1:55 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Subject: Re: Screen Readers
> 
> Just as a point of information with no judgment intended, I recently
> purchased Office 2013 and thought I'd take advantage of the free Window Eyes
> offer to take it for a test drive. Aside from the fact I found the command
> structure rather confusing, window eyes consistently crashed my laptop. This
> happened so often I decided to take it off my system and won't be returning
> to it any time soon.
> 
> Your milage, as they say, may vary. But I'm curious to know if this happened
> because the two screen readers were vying for the eloquence synthesizer? Or
> is there some other inherent conflict between JFW and WE?
> 
> I have since chosen to use NVDA as my backup screen reader for when Jaws
> takes a dive.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Kimber
> 
>> On 5/9/14, James Malone via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Just a heads up, I've been asked to try and use the jaws set AP within 
>> window-eyes. A lot of clients that can't afford to keep up with their 
>> plans to upgrade Jaws is getting their systems preloaded with 
>> Window-Eyes and word. This is included with their new system.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Judith 
>> Bron via Jfw
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:08 AM
>> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
>> Subject: RE: Screen Readers
>> 
>> GW Micro is also making window eyes available in the maimn menu of 
>> Microsoft products.  Eventually, at this rate, all of us will be using 
>> window eyes.
>> Judith
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cy 
>> Selfridge via Jfw
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:57 AM
>> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
>> Subject: RE: Screen Readers
>> 
>> I absolutely agree with you in this.
>> With government funding getting shorter and shorter FS may have 
>> problems selling their wares to their largest client.
>> Cy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gerald 
>> Levy via Jfw
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:49 AM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Subject: Re: Screen Readers
>> 
>> 
>> No matter how scrittable Narrator becomes, it will never be as 
>> functional or feature-rich as JAWS or Window Eyes.  If any screen 
>> reader is in trouble, it may be JAWS, not Window Eyes.  As long as FS 
>> continues to charge upwards of
>> $1000 for JAWS and makes absolutely no concessions to make it more 
>> affordable like GW Micro has with Window Eyes, it is in more danger of 
>> going under than GW Micro.
>> 
>> Gerald
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nicole Massey via Jfw" <[email protected]>
>> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:25 AM
>> Subject: RE: Screen Readers
>> 
>> 
>>> Indications are that Window Eyes is also on its way down the chute.
>>> This move to offer it free with Office is a desperation maneuver, and 
>>> since Narrator will (hopefully, if the reports are correct) be 
>>> scriptable in Windows 9 it doesn't look good for GW Micro.
>>> Jaws will probably hang on a bit longer thanks to existing scripts 
>>> and legacy programs, but this is not good news for any add-on screen 
>>> reader company.
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gerald 
>>>> Levy via Jfw
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 9:17 AM
>>>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>>>> Subject: Re: Screen Readers
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Well, Serotek is still in business, so I guess System Access is till 
>>>> around, but who knows for how long?  Now that Mike Calvo is gone, 
>>>> and Window Eyes is being offered free to users of Office 2010 and 
>>>> 2013, not to mention NVDA, which is also free, it is hard to see how 
>>>> Serotek can remain a viable competitor in the cscreen reader market.
>>>> 
>>>> Gerald
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Nicole Massey via Jfw" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:02 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: Screen Readers
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Is System Access still free and in production?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Mario Brusco via Jfw
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:59 AM
>>>>>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Screen Readers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> there also is the built in one in Windows called narrator, which 
>>>>>> I would like to purchase something to replace MS Anna, like 
>>>>>> Lequendo's Allison.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Anna Byrne via Jfw" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 9:25 AM
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Screen Readers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thunder used to read MS Access when JAWS wouldn't.  The voice is 
>>>>>> awful, but it was a good reader.
>>>>>> At 06:51 AM 5/9/2014, you wrote:
>>>>>>> A couple of years ago, there was another one from The UK, 
>>>>>>> Thunder screen Reader. It's the feature attraction in a suite of
>>>>>>> programs--
>>>> a
>>>>>>> basic PDF reader, Internet radio guide, and other stuff.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> Mario Brusco via Jfw
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 7:47 PM
>>>>>>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Screen Readers
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Non Visual Desktop Access (NVDA) from nvaccess.org is the only 
>>>>>>> one that I know of that's free, but a donation is encouraged.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Kevin Hourigan via Jfw" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 5:33 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Screen Readers
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Listers,
>>>>>>> Could anyone post some of the screen readers downloadable for 
>>>>>>> free
>>>>>> please?
>>>>>>> So I can compare them to Jaws.
>>>>>>> Thanks Kevin Hourigan.
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