I read the same information about XP via FS's Twitter account earlier today when they were live tweeting their presentation. Not unexpected really. JFW 15 will still work with the XP OS so probably not a big deal in the long run as more and more features to future JFW updates will be geared towards touch screens and whatnot that would be irrelevant to XP users anyway.
-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:41 PM To: Doris &Hubby Chris; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: JAWS 16 Indirectly, I received an email from someone at the NFB convention saying that FS has announced that JAWS 16 will not support XP. Anyone using XP might want to contact FS for confirmation. That same email states that JAWS Standard will now be renamed JAWS Home and will be operable on Pro systems. FS will require the more expensive version of JAWS only for commercial purposes. I don't know how this will be enforced, but at first blush, it sounds as though pricing could become a little fairer and more rational. I don't like to post claims I've read only third hand, but I'm doing so here because if these two points are true, they could affect some listers' purchasing decisions in the near future. I, for one, will select the cheaper SMA the next time mine expires if this new JAWS Home development comes about. Again, anyone affected should contact FS to confirm. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doris &Hubby Chris via Jfw Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 8:09 PM To: Ford, Tim (CDPH-OLS); The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Revo Uninstaller Hi, i use jaws 13 on win xp with free revo's latest version and can access any revo option required with just the system cursor of both jaws and nvda. hth DorisAt 07:20 PM 7/1/2014, you wrote: >I have a solution/response to the separate question about Revo >Uninstaller, that was in an email string today on a different subject. >The question was: > >"Is there a way to make Revo Uninstaller Jaws-friendly, so all the > controls are easier to select from and activate, and I don't just >find > a Cancel and Back Button?" > >With review mode, I am able to easily operate those otherwise >inaccessible Revo Uninstaller buttons that were mentioned as requiring >sighted assistance. Below I will explain how I do it, although there >may be other ways. I consider myself technically challenged, so keep >that in mind. If anyone wants to know more specifics, please contact >me off list and we can chat by phone. > >Tim Ford > > >Operating Revo Uninstaller with JAWS > >Note. I am using version 1.95, and the latest of JAWS version 15. I >am on a Windows 7 machine, and prior to that, I used Revo Uninstaller >on an XP home edition machine. I intentionally decline Revo's offer to >update the software. This version works for me, so why bother getting >more current and then finding out that a new version is inaccessible? >End of note. > >When you launch Revo Uninstaller, hereinafter called Revo, you will >find yourself at the top of the list of programs. The list is in >alphabetical order. First letter navigation works, so for example, >pressing the s key takes you to the first program in the list that >starts with s. Use the arrow keys to move through the list. You need >to use all four arrow key directions when navigating this list, since >the left and right arrow key navigation does not jump rows. >When on the program you want, press the application key, or >alternatively, the shift f10 key sequence. This gives you a list of >most of Revo's features. The first item on the list is "uninstall", >and is of course the most common item to select. But take the time to >go down the list to see some very nice other options. For example, you >can find out more about the program through options on the list such as >doing a Google search, or going to the web site for the program >creator. Use these options unless you are absolutely sure you do not >need that program! Another handy item is the option to remove that >program from Revo's list. There are many programs that most of us will >not want to ever touch, so this option allows you to have on your list >only those programs you may want to remove; it does not uninstall or >remove anything from the program, it just hides it so you don't waste >time arrowing through the same stuff again and again. >Now back to the uninstall option. Press enter to start that, and you >will get a warning screen with yes and no buttons. You can either use >the tab and enter key to move amongst the buttons and activate the one >you want. Or, pressing the y key will activate the yes button, and the >d key activates the no button. > >What happens next will depend upon the program you are removing, so >just listen carefully to what JAWS is telling you. The JAWS key and b >usually does a good job of repeating the important text. > > > >When Revo tells you to select the level of uninstall, tab once to a >vertical list with the three options, low, moderate, and high. High is >the most aggressive in terms of removing registry items. It is also >the mode that seems to make Revo superior to the standard Windows >uninstall process found under the control panel. I always use the >highest uninstall mode, and have never had a problem. So select the >mode with the up and down arrows, then tab once and activate the OK >button. > >Note, I am now going from memory for the rest of these instructions, >since I don't actually want to uninstall any programs, so please do not >take me completely literally; I may not exactly remember how JAWS names >the buttons, but the description below will be close enough. > >The JAWS access problems seem to come up after Revo has uninstalled the >program, and prompts you on whether you want to search the registry for >leftover items. Unless you realize you did something wrong, you do >want to have Revo continue with this step. After all, if you don't use >this option, you don't need to use Revo. > >I believe the first prompt uses a next button to continue, and JAWS >will see this button, so press enter on it. If you are not sure where >you are, use the tab and shift tab, pressing enter to activate. > >At this stage I recommend you now go into JAWS review mode, and stay in >review mode until you get to and select the "finish" >button. When in review mode, all the important information is clear >and easily read with the arrow keys. I recommend using control with >left or right arrow, which takes you nicely from word to word. This >also ensures that you are at the proper place to do the left click. >When you want to activate a given command, use the JAWS keystroke for a >left mouse click. > >One step will be the option of selecting all items that Revo recommends >be removed from the registry and elsewhere on your computer. (Revo >also lists each such item slated for removal, but the descriptions are >beyond my level of technical knowledge. I have always pressed the >select-all button, and have never had a problem.) > >Select the option you want by the left mouse click keystroke. When >clicking on that select-all button, you will not hear any feedback from >JAWS, but take it on faith that you have made that selection. Move >forward to the "delete" button and click on it. JAWS will warn you >that this is going to remove the listed stuff, and it tells you to >press yes or no to proceed. You can press the y key for yes, n key for >no, or you can manually move to the button you want and click on it. > >When Revo has deleted all that stuff, it will often times show a zero >in the number of items left, which makes sense, but Revo confusingly >asks you to select or de-select the listed options. Go through the >same steps above about selecting and hitting the delete button. You >will often fine that in a second pass, Revo has found more stuff it >recommends you delete. I have had as many as three passes before it >catches everything, but most often the second pass is all you need. >When Revo finds nothing more, you will then see a "finish" button, with >a congratulations message that you are done. When you click on the >finish button, Revo will immediately pop up into the list of programs, >ready to start again. If you are done, just exit with alt-f4. > >That is it. It is actually pretty easy once you do the steps a few >times, and that is coming from someone who is at best considered >average in terms of JAWS skills. >This is the end of the basic instructions. 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