Dear All, Request your kind support to understand how does JAWS support IBM Lotus Notes (Cloud-based) and what are the keyboard commands to operate in this interface? The IT team at my workplace has recently migrated to cloud based mail client of Lotus Notes and I'm not able to operate in this new interface using the same key-board commands that are used for regular Lotus Notes-mail client. Your timely inputs will be of great help in a quick and smooth transition to this new interface of Lotus Notes using JAWS. Thanks and regards, Alpana
-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 6:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Jfw Digest, Vol 39, Issue 2 Send Jfw mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Jfw digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Sleep or Hibernate (Kevin Hourigan) 2. RE: Sleep or Hibernate (Cy Selfridge) 3. RE: Sleep or Hibernate (James Malone) 4. Re: Sleep or Hibernate ([email protected]) 5. RE: Sleep or Hibernate (Adrian Spratt) 6. RE: Sleep or Hibernate (James Malone) 7. RE: Sleep or Hibernate (James Malone) 8. Important: please read! (Stephanie Switzer) 9. Mouse Over (thomas williams) 10. Re: Mouse Over (Bhavesh) 11. RE: Mouse Over (Cy Selfridge) 12. RE: Mouse Over (Adrian Spratt) 13. JAWS and MS Word 2010 comments (Adrian Spratt) 14. RE: JAWS and MS Word 2010 comments (doug slotten) 15. RE: Mouse Over: where to turn off? (Doris &Hubby Chris) 16. speech stops (Barbara Corner) 17. RE: speech stops (Robert Hebert) 18. RE: speech stops (Robert Hebert) 19. RE: Sleep or Hibernate (Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)) 20. RE: Sleep or Hibernate (Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)) 21. Re: Sleep or Hibernate (Dave Durber) 22. Re: Sleep or Hibernate (Dave Durber) 23. getting traveling directions (Mario Brusco) 24. RE: getting traveling directions (Adrian Spratt) 25. Re: JAWS and MS Word 2010 comments (Kimber Gardner) 26. Re: getting traveling directions (Gerald Levy) 27. Activation help (Jess Killian) 28. RE: Activation help (Adrian Spratt) 29. Jaws overlap (Cliff Self) 30. RE: Jaws overlap (Travis Smith) 31. RE: Jaws overlap (Crist?bal) 32. Excel, protecting cells after tdata has been entered (Anna Byrne) 33. RE: Excel, protecting cells after tdata has been entered (George B) 34. RE: Jaws overlap (Cy Selfridge) 35. speech and Sounds (Adrian Spratt) 36. Re: JAWS and MS Word 2010 comments (Ed Marquette) 37. Re: speech and Sounds (Anna Byrne) 38. Re: getting traveling directions (Brad Martin) 39. RE: Excel, protecting cells after tdata has been entered (Chris Jenkins) 40. Re: Excel, protecting cells after tdata has been entered (Howard Traxler) 41. Re: JAWS and MS Word 2010 comments (Kimber Gardner) 42. RE: Jaws overlap (Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)) 43. RE: speech and Sounds (Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)) 44. RE: speech and Sounds (Chris Jenkins) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 08:28:31 -0700 From: "Kevin Hourigan" <[email protected]> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: Sleep or Hibernate Message-ID: <8FCC1CC6CCC5426394B629861EBB253E@kevinPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello People, A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard? Thank you all, Cheers Kevin. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 02/208d7458/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 09:33:06 -0600 From: "Cy Selfridge" <[email protected]> To: "'Kevin Hourigan'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate Message-ID: <007701cfae67$0ef426e0$2cdc74a0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Kevin, I do not know about the hacking issue but I do know that when the computer goes to "sleep" when it wakes back up many times things do not work quite like they used to. This is true with W7 64 bit, Office 2007 and JAWS 14. Somehow Outlook does ot quite get it all together and you have to do a restart anyway. (LOLLOLLOL) In earilier versions of JAWS with XP FS suggested that you not let the computer go to sleep, just turn it off. Cy -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:29 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Sleep or Hibernate Hello People, A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard? Thank you all, Cheers Kevin. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 02/208d7458/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 09:03:16 -0700 From: "James Malone" <[email protected]> To: "'Cy Selfridge'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAMcdYgV7YwxDjCx+YzO6+wPCgAAAEAAAAMacaxyq1PVKlTzc+SnK [email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Concerning the hackers, if you keep your virus and auntie malware up to date, you shouldn't have any issues at all. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 8:33 AM To: 'Kevin Hourigan'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate Hi Kevin, I do not know about the hacking issue but I do know that when the computer goes to "sleep" when it wakes back up many times things do not work quite like they used to. This is true with W7 64 bit, Office 2007 and JAWS 14. Somehow Outlook does ot quite get it all together and you have to do a restart anyway. (LOLLOLLOL) In earilier versions of JAWS with XP FS suggested that you not let the computer go to sleep, just turn it off. Cy -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:29 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Sleep or Hibernate Hello People, A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard? Thank you all, Cheers Kevin. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 02/208d7458/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 11:19:37 -0500 From: [email protected] To: Kevin Hourigan <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Sleep or Hibernate Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This discussion should go in the general technologies list, which is owned by the same person who owns this list. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello People, > A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard? > Thank you all, > Cheers Kevin. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 02/208d7458/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 17:09:22 +0000 From: Adrian Spratt <[email protected]> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate Message-ID: <A0DC7E0F2A2FF943A89169B1EEB635A9D7D1AD9F@wegomail2k8.dataclonemail.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Please clarify. Has James appointed you co-moderator of this list? If so, I missed it. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of emmanrusty--- via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:20 PM To: Kevin Hourigan; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Sleep or Hibernate This discussion should go in the general technologies list, which is owned by the same person who owns this list. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello People, > A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard? > Thank you all, > Cheers Kevin. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 02/208d7458/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 10:20:03 -0700 From: "James Malone" <[email protected]> To: "'Adrian Spratt'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAMcdYgV7YwxDjCx+YzO6+wPCgAAAEAAAAAtEDFZF+dFCqH72kyaO [email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What? I was just making a statement about general computers in relationship with Jaws(smile). -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 10:09 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate Please clarify. Has James appointed you co-moderator of this list? If so, I missed it. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of emmanrusty--- via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:20 PM To: Kevin Hourigan; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Sleep or Hibernate This discussion should go in the general technologies list, which is owned by the same person who owns this list. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello People, > A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard? > Thank you all, > Cheers Kevin. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ > 20140802/208d7458/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 10:22:57 -0700 From: "James Malone" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAMcdYgV7YwxDjCx+YzO6+wPCgAAAEAAAAOkkr4N/Da9NrbN0fqlz [email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Then let the owner make this choice. This can be cross posted, and can be helpful to all on both lists. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of emmanrusty--- via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:20 AM To: Kevin Hourigan; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Sleep or Hibernate This discussion should go in the general technologies list, which is owned by the same person who owns this list. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello People, > A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard? > Thank you all, > Cheers Kevin. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ > 20140802/208d7458/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 13:23:22 -0500 From: Stephanie Switzer <[email protected]> To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list <[email protected]> Subject: Important: please read! Message-ID: <CAFOAwjfNoJLddvYyrPmcf=nba3o5c8mpyv965r0r151ddsm...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello everyone. First of all let me point out that I am not a list admin. Second of all if you don?t read this, subscribe to the link I will be posting, or at least book mark/favorite it. It is not my fault as I refuse to be a hand-holder, or your mother. ? So please read this in it?s entirety. As I?m including the link to the support of technologies list that have nothing to do with jaws or freedom scientific here. The list owner created the support list, so we could have discussions about things not related to Jaws and/or freedom scientific. I?ve seen a lot of discussions that have nothing to do with neither of those things, so if you don?t mind would you please post all general tech inquiries to the general support list only, or utilize Google? Mostly because these things aren?t related to jaws/freedom scientific in any way, and shouldn?t be here. Examples of this include, but are not limited to: the discussion about smart phones, and the current discussion about whether or not it is better for hacking purposes if a computer is turned off, or is in hibernate. These types of discussions should in fact, go on the general support list, not this one. Because they have absolutely nothing to do with either jaws or freedom scientific unless of course you plan to hack into someone?s computer using jaws, and need to know how. In which case it shouldn?t be discussed here any way because hacking into things is very much ill eagle. ? The only reason Smart phones should be discussed on this list is if you?re trying to do something with yours or someone else?s and Jaws or some other F. S. program is refusing to cooperate in some way. If you don?t know how to use Google, and you would like too please contact me privately. I wouldn?t mind showing you. Here is the link to the general technologies list. Feel free to book mark/favorite this link if you don?t want to subscribe right away. http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/support_lists.the-jdh.com As for the beginning part, the one that said I?m not a hand-holder. That?s kind of a joke, but kind of true at least for me. Anyway, enjoy your general teching! The rest of the list members, and maybe you will thank me later when that portion you have set aside for your email regarding this list, or your m-box isn?t full of things that do not relate to jaws/Freedom Scientific. Also, if you would like to contact the list owner here is his email address, but he?s out of town, so it might take him a while to respond. [email protected] The other reason why I wrote this out is for the people who don?t know about the general technologies list. This wasn?t meant to be taken as me being mean, or sarcastic, or whatever. ? If you've read this far, thank you! :) ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 14:46:47 -0400 From: "thomas williams" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Mouse Over Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am looking for the Mouse Over command, could someone please post? ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 00:20:25 +0530 From: Bhavesh <[email protected]> To: thomas williams <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Mouse Over Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Press insert control enter. Sent from my iPhone > On 03-Aug-2014, at 12:16 am, thomas williams via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am looking for the Mouse Over command, could someone please post? > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 13:09:40 -0600 From: "Cy Selfridge" <[email protected]> To: "'Bhavesh'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Mouse Over Message-ID: <00ef01cfae85$502a8140$f07f83c0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" While we are on this subject, tell me again what mouseOver is supposed to gain one. I believe I have it disabled as it was more trouble than it was worth. Dy -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bhavesh via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:50 PM To: thomas williams; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Mouse Over Press insert control enter. Sent from my iPhone > On 03-Aug-2014, at 12:16 am, thomas williams via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am looking for the Mouse Over command, could someone please post? > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 20:32:02 +0000 From: Adrian Spratt <[email protected]> To: Cy Selfridge <[email protected]>, The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Mouse Over Message-ID: <A0DC7E0F2A2FF943A89169B1EEB635A9D7D1AF05@wegomail2k8.dataclonemail.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cy, In my experience of mouseover, it very occasionally reveals more than one link in what JAWS identifies as a single link. But even in the few instances where mouseover has revealed a hidden link, I've never found it valuable. If anything, the time involved in locating the hidden link is annoying. Once JAWS identifies a mouseover situation and you press the control-insert- enter combo, JAWS verbalizes a number. You then have to press j to bring up the "jump to line" dialog followed by that number. Even then, JAWS usually announces there's nothing in that link. (I don't remember how this is verbalized.) To hear how FS describes the mouseover function, open your browser, press JAWS key+1 for JAWS key describer mode, then press the mouseover key combo. I'm writing from memory, so anyone who has used mouseover more recently should correct any details. But my bottom line is that I've never once benefited by using it. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 3:10 PM To: 'Bhavesh'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Mouse Over While we are on this subject, tell me again what mouseOver is supposed to gain one. I believe I have it disabled as it was more trouble than it was worth. Dy -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bhavesh via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:50 PM To: thomas williams; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Mouse Over Press insert control enter. Sent from my iPhone > On 03-Aug-2014, at 12:16 am, thomas williams via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am looking for the Mouse Over command, could someone please post? > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 12:48:03 +0000 From: Adrian Spratt <[email protected]> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> Subject: JAWS and MS Word 2010 comments Message-ID: <A0DC7E0F2A2FF943A89169B1EEB635A9D7D1B0FD@wegomail2k8.dataclonemail.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi. An editor wants to use Word 2010's comments to send me her thoughts on a 300-page document. I've never used this feature before. She has sent me a short sample to see if JAWS can read the comments. After reading a number of posts I saved on the subject from this list and the relevant section in CathyAnne Murtha's textbook, I cannot solve the following problems. I know to bring up comments in context by pressing control+shift+apostrophe. With Windows key+semicolon, I can also create a text file consisting of all the comments. Here are the problems I've identified so far: 1. When reading a comment in context after pressing control+shift+apostrophe, I'd like to navigate it with the arrow keys. However, nothing happens. I can repeat the entire text to my heart's content, but not isolate words and phrases. 2. I can isolate words and phrases when I bring up all the comments in the Win key+semicolon text file. However, this is not ideal for two reasons. First, it will require me to do a lot of cross-referencing between the document's primary text and the comments page I've created. Second, after checking the JAWS text against a sighted person's reading of the text in the printed comments, I find there's additional text in the JAWS version. Additional text might be a smaller problem than less text, but it is distracting and makes me worry that the JAWS version might prove unreliable in other ways. Here's a sample comment. Everything after the peculiar word "extrahat" appears in the JAWS version but not the print original: Here's where a comment would go. My Word program identifies what words in the text this comment is about by coloring them and giving them a number. Extrahat the comments appear in two different places--one, in a list on the left hand sidey coloring them, and giving them a nu 3. All in all, for a JAWS user, this seems a terribly cumbersome process, especially for a 300-page document where there will be comments on nearly every page, as well as strike-through and other attributes. Am I just showing the anxiety of one new to a task? Is there a method that will work better for me and is equally convenient for the editor? I hope I've made myself clear. Thanks especially to Ed Marquette and Jean Menzies for their posts on this topic. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 03/42ed91ce/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 10:01:07 -0400 From: "doug slotten" <[email protected]> To: "'Adrian Spratt'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: JAWS and MS Word 2010 comments Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To read the comment by word in context, I believe you have to go to edit comment mode. This can be reached by right clicking the comment and selecting the correct option. Doug ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:15:11 -0400 From: Doris &Hubby Chris <[email protected]> To: Adrian Spratt <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Mouse Over: where to turn off? Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed And here do you turn mouseover off? using jaws 9 on a 2k box here. thanks much. DorisAt 04:32 PM 8/2/2014, you wrote: >Cy, > >In my experience of mouseover, it very occasionally reveals more >than one link in what JAWS identifies as a single link. But even in >the few instances where mouseover has revealed a hidden link, I've >never found it valuable. If anything, the time involved in locating >the hidden link is annoying. Once JAWS identifies a mouseover >situation and you press the control-insert- enter combo, JAWS >verbalizes a number. You then have to press j to bring up the "jump >to line" dialog followed by that number. Even then, JAWS usually >announces there's nothing in that link. (I don't remember how this >is verbalized.) > >To hear how FS describes the mouseover function, open your browser, >press JAWS key+1 for JAWS key describer mode, then press the >mouseover key combo. > >I'm writing from memory, so anyone who has used mouseover more >recently should correct any details. But my bottom line is that I've >never once benefited by using it. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cy >Selfridge via Jfw >Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 3:10 PM >To: 'Bhavesh'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' >Subject: RE: Mouse Over > >While we are on this subject, tell me again what mouseOver is supposed to >gain one. >I believe I have it disabled as it was more trouble than it was worth. >Dy > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bhavesh via >Jfw >Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:50 PM >To: thomas williams; The Jaws for Windows support list. >Subject: Re: Mouse Over > >Press insert control enter. > > > >Sent from my iPhone > > > On 03-Aug-2014, at 12:16 am, thomas williams via Jfw ><[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I am looking for the Mouse Over command, could someone please post? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Jfw mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > >_______________________________________________ >Jfw mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Jfw mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > >_______________________________________________ >Jfw mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 16:58:24 -0400 From: "Barbara Corner" <[email protected]> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Subject: speech stops Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" When I am using my netbook with JAWS 14 speech stops and after a few minutes it comes back and then stops again. Any ideas why this is happening? It is very frustrating! It happens with Office 2010, HJ Pad, notepad etc. Bar ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:43:06 -0700 From: "Robert Hebert" <[email protected]> To: "'Barbara Corner'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: speech stops Message-ID: <001501cfaf6c$4bca9490$e35fbdb0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jaws is a huge program these days and requires a lot of processing capacity--at least 4 gig of CPU memory and preferably 6 gig. Your netbook may have sufficient processing capacity. Also, in many cases there is a memory leak when running Jaws so you might try unloading Jaws and reloading again, or even shutting your computer down entirely and rebooting. A -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Belso, do not leave your computer on when you are not using it as some processes run even when not using your computer if left on and memory leak may occur during this time. As to whether or to leave a computer on between uses, opinion is divided. Personally, unless I plan to use my computer within 2 or 3 hours, I always turn it off. I have a working desktop that'S over 10 years old and this windows 7 laptop is 5 years old. Finally, you may wish to try a much lighter speech program such as NVDA. This program requires much less memory. It does not have the functionality of Jaws but for emails and net serfing, it is excellent. It is free. Simply google NVDA, click on their site then the download link. It is well documented and easily learned and easy to use. half Of Barbara Corner via Jfw Sent: August-03-14 1:58 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: speech stops When I am using my netbook with JAWS 14 speech stops and after a few minutes it comes back and then stops again. Any ideas why this is happening? It is very frustrating! It happens with Office 2010, HJ Pad, notepad etc. Bar _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:48:51 -0700 From: "Robert Hebert" <[email protected]> To: "'Robert Hebert'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: speech stops Message-ID: <001c01cfaf6d$193fc760$4bbf5620$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sorry about the slight glitch in my last post to you. My keyboard sometimes switches to French Canadian and after I returned it to U.S. English a bit of junk got inserted into my message. First time for this one but then, with speech, the unexpected often happens. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Hebert via Jfw Sent: August-03-14 3:43 PM To: 'Barbara Corner'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: speech stops Jaws is a huge program these days and requires a lot of processing capacity--at least 4 gig of CPU memory and preferably 6 gig. Your netbook may have sufficient processing capacity. Also, in many cases there is a memory leak when running Jaws so you might try unloading Jaws and reloading again, or even shutting your computer down entirely and rebooting. A -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Belso, do not leave your computer on when you are not using it as some processes run even when not using your computer if left on and memory leak may occur during this time. As to whether or to leave a computer on between uses, opinion is divided. Personally, unless I plan to use my computer within 2 or 3 hours, I always turn it off. I have a working desktop that'S over 10 years old and this windows 7 laptop is 5 years old. Finally, you may wish to try a much lighter speech program such as NVDA. This program requires much less memory. It does not have the functionality of Jaws but for emails and net serfing, it is excellent. It is free. Simply google NVDA, click on their site then the download link. It is well documented and easily learned and easy to use. half Of Barbara Corner via Jfw Sent: August-03-14 1:58 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: speech stops When I am using my netbook with JAWS 14 speech stops and after a few minutes it comes back and then stops again. Any ideas why this is happening? It is very frustrating! It happens with Office 2010, HJ Pad, notepad etc. Bar _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 11:55:11 +0000 From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <[email protected]> To: Cy Selfridge <[email protected]>, The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That happened to me several times when my current machine was new. I reset the power, figuring the few pennies it cost me were better than the aggravation. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 11:33 AM To: 'Kevin Hourigan'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate Hi Kevin, I do not know about the hacking issue but I do know that when the computer goes to "sleep" when it wakes back up many times things do not work quite like they used to. This is true with W7 64 bit, Office 2007 and JAWS 14. Somehow Outlook does ot quite get it all together and you have to do a restart anyway. (LOLLOLLOL) In earilier versions of JAWS with XP FS suggested that you not let the computer go to sleep, just turn it off. Cy -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 9:29 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Sleep or Hibernate Hello People, A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard? Thank you all, Cheers Kevin. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate Please clarify. Has James appointed you co-moderator of this list? If so, I missed it. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of emmanrusty--- via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:20 PM To: Kevin Hourigan; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Sleep or Hibernate This discussion should go in the general technologies list, which is owned by the same person who owns this list. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello People, > A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard? > Thank you all, > Cheers Kevin. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ > 20140802/208d7458/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:18:12 -0400 From: "Dave Durber" <[email protected]> To: "James Malone" <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Sleep or Hibernate Message-ID: <46007BAF255948BC905428012A12B916@dave> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello James: If, by having your computer go into either Sleep or Hybernation modes, has an affect on how JAWS behaves when restarting your computer from either of those states, then it is relevant to this list. Sincerely: Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Malone via Jfw" <[email protected]> To: "'Adrian Spratt'" <[email protected]>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 1:20 PM Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate > What? > I was just making a statement about general computers in relationship with > Jaws(smile). > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian > Spratt > via Jfw > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 10:09 AM > To: The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate > > Please clarify. Has James appointed you co-moderator of this list? If so, > I > missed it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > emmanrusty--- > via Jfw > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:20 PM > To: Kevin Hourigan; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: Sleep or Hibernate > > This discussion should go in the general technologies list, which is owned > by the same person who owns this list. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello People, >> A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting > down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment > pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep > that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the > computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard? >> Thank you all, >> Cheers Kevin. >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ >> 20140802/208d7458/attachment.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:33:36 -0400 From: "Dave Durber" <[email protected]> To: "Lisle, Ted \(CHFS DMS\)" <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Sleep or Hibernate Message-ID: <2E51208EBF0441C2B6ED38C2E7BBDC96@dave> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original When using my 64 BIT HP Pavilion Laptop, running Windows 7 Professional and JAWS 14, fortunately for me, I have not yet had any problems with JAWS, Version 14, when waking up the computer, from either Sleep mode or hibernation mode. In addition, If I know I am not going to be using my laptop for some time, I exit any programs I am running at the time and leave the laptop at the desktop. HTH Sincerely: Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw" <[email protected]> To: "Adrian Spratt" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows supportlist." <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 7:56 AM Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate > Besides, one of the things sleep mode messes up royally is JAWS. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian > Spratt via Jfw > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 1:09 PM > To: The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: RE: Sleep or Hibernate > > Please clarify. Has James appointed you co-moderator of this list? If so, > I missed it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > emmanrusty--- via Jfw > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:20 PM > To: Kevin Hourigan; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Re: Sleep or Hibernate > > This discussion should go in the general technologies list, which is owned > by the same person who owns this list. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello People, >> A week or two ago there was a thread discussing the merits of shutting >> down ones computer or putting it to sleep. I believe that one comment >> pointed out that if the computer was shut down as opposed to put to sleep >> that would prevent entry by hackers. My question is, would putting the >> computer in hibernate accomplish this safe guard? >> Thank you all, >> Cheers Kevin. >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/ >> 20140802/208d7458/attachment.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:58:07 -0400 From: Mario Brusco <[email protected]> To: "Dave Durber" <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: getting traveling directions Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" hi fellow listers, I am in need of getting directions to a destination address and wanted to know if there is an accessible/usable service that I can use? I tried Google Maps but it's somewhat difficult to make heads/tales of things like where to type in the starting and destination address among choosing the few options and reviewing the results/steps in a text layout. MapQuest has gone totally graphical, and their classic interface does not exist anymore. So what else is there for us screen reader users? Anyone? ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 15:38:08 +0000 From: Adrian Spratt <[email protected]> To: Mario Brusco <[email protected]>, The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> Subject: RE: getting traveling directions Message-ID: <A0DC7E0F2A2FF943A89169B1EEB635A9D7D1B655@wegomail2k8.dataclonemail.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mario, Instead of Google Maps, try plain old Google. I write my query in the following form: Directions: origin, destination Note the colon after "direction." I just now tested this idea again, and here's what I found. 1. I got very specific directions when I searched for directions from one town to another. 2. when I searched for directions within the city where I live, I didn't get such specific directions, but various pages came up with the information I'd need, such as nearby subway stops, miles involved, etc. If no one has a better suggestion, I hope this works for you. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mario Brusco via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 10:58 AM To: Dave Durber; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: getting traveling directions hi fellow listers, I am in need of getting directions to a destination address and wanted to know if there is an accessible/usable service that I can use? I tried Google Maps but it's somewhat difficult to make heads/tales of things like where to type in the starting and destination address among choosing the few options and reviewing the results/steps in a text layout. MapQuest has gone totally graphical, and their classic interface does not exist anymore. So what else is there for us screen reader users? Anyone? _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 11:42:21 -0400 From: Kimber Gardner <[email protected]> To: Adrian Spratt <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: JAWS and MS Word 2010 comments Message-ID: <CAC+YXV+gz=5ckqshslaqowzwyxsxbubnk4hv3chivbjcvp4...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Adrian, I feel your pain as I regularly do the comment swap with my own editors and it is a pain in the butt. As Doug said, editing the comment is the only way I know to move through the text of a comment by words or characters. I wish there were a more efficient way but alas there isn't. As for accessing and reading the comments themselves, there are times when I prefer the ms word functions for previous and next to the jaws method. The most efficient way to utilize the ms word previous and next comment functions is to place them on the quick access toolbar which you can then access via the control key and one of the keys in the numbers row on the keyboard. Another helpful tip is to set up jaws to use one of the proofing sound schemes. I can't recall exactly which one I use, but will figure it out and get back to you if you'd like. In my case, my line editors use color coding to indicate various types of editing, like green for repetitions and pink for unnecessary words. If you have a need to know which words have been colored, the best way to do this is with the ms word find highlight function. I can provide instructions for this too if need be. That's all I can think of right now. Let me know if you need more details and I will do my best to help. Kimber On 8/3/14, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi. An editor wants to use Word 2010's comments to send me her thoughts on a > 300-page document. I've never used this feature before. She has sent me a > short sample to see if JAWS can read the comments. > > After reading a number of posts I saved on the subject from this list and > the relevant section in CathyAnne Murtha's textbook, I cannot solve the > following problems. > > I know to bring up comments in context by pressing control+shift+apostrophe. > With Windows key+semicolon, I can also create a text file consisting of all > the comments. Here are the problems I've identified so far: > > 1. When reading a comment in context after pressing > control+shift+apostrophe, I'd like to navigate it with the arrow keys. > However, nothing happens. I can repeat the entire text to my heart's > content, but not isolate words and phrases. > > 2. I can isolate words and phrases when I bring up all the comments in the > Win key+semicolon text file. However, this is not ideal for two reasons. > First, it will require me to do a lot of cross-referencing between the > document's primary text and the comments page I've created. Second, after > checking the JAWS text against a sighted person's reading of the text in the > printed comments, I find there's additional text in the JAWS version. > Additional text might be a smaller problem than less text, but it is > distracting and makes me worry that the JAWS version might prove unreliable > in other ways. > > Here's a sample comment. Everything after the peculiar word "extrahat" > appears in the JAWS version but not the print original: > > Here's where a comment would go. My Word program identifies what words in > the text this comment is about by coloring them and giving them a number. > Extrahat the comments appear in two different places--one, in a list on the > left hand sidey coloring them, and giving them a nu > > 3. All in all, for a JAWS user, this seems a terribly cumbersome process, > especially for a 300-page document where there will be comments on nearly > every page, as well as strike-through and other attributes. Am I just > showing the anxiety of one new to a task? Is there a method that will work > better for me and is equally convenient for the editor? > > I hope I've made myself clear. Thanks especially to Ed Marquette and Jean > Menzies for their posts on this topic. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 03/42ed91ce/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > -- Kimberly ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 11:55:25 -0400 From: "Gerald Levy" <[email protected]> To: "Mario Brusco" <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: getting traveling directions Message-ID: <9667678EED134A9196742C77A308484B@glevy> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I don't understand why you are having trouble using Google Maps. Just click on maps from the Google home page, and then click on the link labeled get directions. On this page, you can enter your starting and ending addresses in the appropriate edit fields. On the results page, you can choose to display directions by car, by public transportation or by walking. The directions for each mode of travel are given in detailed steps that are easily read by JAWS. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario Brusco via Jfw" <[email protected]> To: "Dave Durber" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 10:58 AM Subject: getting traveling directions > hi fellow listers, I am in need of getting directions to a destination > address and wanted to know if there is an accessible/usable service that I > can use? I tried Google Maps but it's somewhat difficult to make > heads/tales of things like where to type in the starting and destination > address among choosing the few options and reviewing the results/steps in > a > text layout. > > MapQuest has gone totally graphical, and their classic interface does not > exist anymore. So what else is there for us screen reader users? Anyone? > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 12:54:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Jess Killian <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Activation help Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, I am attempting to activate JAWS version 15. Each time I press the activate button, I get brought back to the screen where JAWS says the version. I have used the space bar and the enter key but with the same result. I do not understand why these key strokes are not working to activate this version. I have been able to activate older versions by pressing either the space bar or enter on the update authorization button. Any help with this matter is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jess ------------------------------ Message: 28 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 17:53:01 +0000 From: Adrian Spratt <[email protected]> To: Jess Killian <[email protected]>, The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Activation help Message-ID: <A0DC7E0F2A2FF943A89169B1EEB635A9D7D1B760@wegomail2k8.dataclonemail.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jess, Could it be you're already activated? If it's just a question of installing an updated or new version of JAWS on a system that is already activated with JAWS, you shouldn't need to go through this process. Otherwise, if calling FS tech support is an option for you, I'd do that. If I'm not mistaken, one of the choices on their phone system is for activation. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jess Killian via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Activation help Hi, I am attempting to activate JAWS version 15. Each time I press the activate button, I get brought back to the screen where JAWS says the version. I have used the space bar and the enter key but with the same result. I do not understand why these key strokes are not working to activate this version. I have been able to activate older versions by pressing either the space bar or enter on the update authorization button. Any help with this matter is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jess _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 29 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:51:55 -0700 From: "Cliff Self" <[email protected]> To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <[email protected]> Subject: Jaws overlap Message-ID: <A32760CA1CB44743994EE380207D6F18@delldim2400> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm getting a new computer and for a brief time will need to run Jaws on both the new and old ones. Are there any legal or practical considerations here? thanks, Cliff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Are there any legal or practical considerations here? thanks, Cliff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 04/49b672a6/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 31 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:57:01 -0700 From: Crist?bal <[email protected]> To: "'Cliff Self'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Jaws overlap Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Shouldn't be. Just use another one of your activation keys. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff Self via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 1:52 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list Subject: Jaws overlap I'm getting a new computer and for a brief time will need to run Jaws on both the new and old ones. Are there any legal or practical considerations here? thanks, Cliff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 04/49b672a6/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 32 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 16:48:44 -0500 From: Anna Byrne <[email protected]> To: Adrian Spratt <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: Excel, protecting cells after tdata has been entered Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed How do I tell Excel that there is data in a cell and nobody should write over it? Our office uses colors to indicate that you can't write, but without querying each cell individually, my student is not aware of data being written. thanks, >Jess, > >Could it be you're already activated? If it's just a question of >installing an updated or new version of JAWS on a system that is >already activated with JAWS, you shouldn't need to go through this process. > >Otherwise, if calling FS tech support is an option for you, I'd do >that. If I'm not mistaken, one of the choices on their phone system >is for activation. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jess >Killian via Jfw >Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:55 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Activation help > >Hi, > > I am attempting to activate JAWS version 15. Each time I press >the activate button, I get brought back to the screen where JAWS says >the version. I have used the space bar and the enter key but with the >same result. I do not understand why these key strokes are not working >to activate this version. I have been able to activate older versions >by pressing either the space bar or enter on the update authorization >button. Any help with this matter is greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Jess > > > >_______________________________________________ >Jfw mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > >_______________________________________________ >Jfw mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 33 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:52:32 -0700 From: "George B" <[email protected]> To: "'Anna Byrne'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]>, "'Adrian Spratt'" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Excel, protecting cells after tdata has been entered Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Set up a sound sceeme and add speek background color of a cell for excel docs or for just excel docs from your company..thus when ever you land a cell it will read the cell and tell the background color. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anna Byrne via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 14:49 To: Adrian Spratt; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Excel, protecting cells after tdata has been entered How do I tell Excel that there is data in a cell and nobody should write over it? Our office uses colors to indicate that you can't write, but without querying each cell individually, my student is not aware of data being written. thanks, >Jess, > >Could it be you're already activated? If it's just a question of >installing an updated or new version of JAWS on a system that is >already activated with JAWS, you shouldn't need to go through this process. > >Otherwise, if calling FS tech support is an option for you, I'd do >that. If I'm not mistaken, one of the choices on their phone system >is for activation. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jess >Killian via Jfw >Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:55 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Activation help > >Hi, > > I am attempting to activate JAWS version 15. Each time I press >the activate button, I get brought back to the screen where JAWS says >the version. I have used the space bar and the enter key but with the >same result. I do not understand why these key strokes are not working >to activate this version. I have been able to activate older versions >by pressing either the space bar or enter on the update authorization >button. Any help with this matter is greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Jess > > > >_______________________________________________ >Jfw mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > >_______________________________________________ >Jfw mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 34 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 16:16:06 -0600 From: "Cy Selfridge" <[email protected]> To: "'Cliff Self'" <[email protected]>, "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Jaws overlap Message-ID: <00ce01cfb031$b0501c80$10f05580$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You are entitled to run JAWS on two machines so long as both are yours. Cy -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff Self via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 2:52 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list Subject: Jaws overlap I'm getting a new computer and for a brief time will need to run Jaws on both the new and old ones. Are there any legal or practical considerations here? thanks, Cliff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 04/49b672a6/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 35 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 23:22:50 +0000 From: Adrian Spratt <[email protected]> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> Subject: speech and Sounds Message-ID: <A0DC7E0F2A2FF943A89169B1EEB635A9D7D1BA07@wegomail2k8.dataclonemail.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi. I'm trying to set up a speech and sound scheme that will issue a tone each time I land on colored text in Word. I go through the entire process, save the scheme with a new name, and click OK when asked if I want to run JAWS with this scheme. I then go to my Word document with some colored text, press "say all," and... Nothing. JAWS keeps reading and no pleasant piano notes alert me to the color change. Can anyone suggest what I might be missing? Is it possible that my synthesizer limits what I can do with speech and sounds? I have a Dectalk Express, which understandably limits my options in other areas, but I don't understand why it would prevent JAWS from playing a sound. I do get sounds in other JAWS contexts, such as when entering and exiting forms mode, settings I made myself. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 04/bf7b4f56/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 36 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:42:06 -0500 From: Ed Marquette <[email protected]> To: Kimber Gardner <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Cc: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: JAWS and MS Word 2010 comments Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All of this is helpful. I think there was one error, however. To access the quick access toolbar, one uses the old key plus the numbers on the number row. The big problem is exiting comments. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Kimber Gardner via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Adrian, > > I feel your pain as I regularly do the comment swap with my own > editors and it is a pain in the butt. > > As Doug said, editing the comment is the only way I know to move > through the text of a comment by words or characters. I wish there > were a more efficient way but alas there isn't. > > As for accessing and reading the comments themselves, there are times > when I prefer the ms word functions for previous and next to the jaws > method. The most efficient way to utilize the ms word previous and > next comment functions is to place them on the quick access toolbar > which you can then access via the control key and one of the keys in > the numbers row on the keyboard. > > Another helpful tip is to set up jaws to use one of the proofing sound > schemes. I can't recall exactly which one I use, but will figure it > out and get back to you if you'd like. > > In my case, my line editors use color coding to indicate various types > of editing, like green for repetitions and pink for unnecessary words. > If you have a need to know which words have been colored, the best way > to do this is with the ms word find highlight function. I can provide > instructions for this too if need be. > > That's all I can think of right now. Let me know if you need more > details and I will do my best to help. > > Kimber > >> On 8/3/14, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi. An editor wants to use Word 2010's comments to send me her thoughts on a >> 300-page document. I've never used this feature before. She has sent me a >> short sample to see if JAWS can read the comments. >> >> After reading a number of posts I saved on the subject from this list and >> the relevant section in CathyAnne Murtha's textbook, I cannot solve the >> following problems. >> >> I know to bring up comments in context by pressing control+shift+apostrophe. >> With Windows key+semicolon, I can also create a text file consisting of all >> the comments. Here are the problems I've identified so far: >> >> 1. When reading a comment in context after pressing >> control+shift+apostrophe, I'd like to navigate it with the arrow keys. >> However, nothing happens. I can repeat the entire text to my heart's >> content, but not isolate words and phrases. >> >> 2. I can isolate words and phrases when I bring up all the comments in the >> Win key+semicolon text file. However, this is not ideal for two reasons. >> First, it will require me to do a lot of cross-referencing between the >> document's primary text and the comments page I've created. Second, after >> checking the JAWS text against a sighted person's reading of the text in the >> printed comments, I find there's additional text in the JAWS version. >> Additional text might be a smaller problem than less text, but it is >> distracting and makes me worry that the JAWS version might prove unreliable >> in other ways. >> >> Here's a sample comment. Everything after the peculiar word "extrahat" >> appears in the JAWS version but not the print original: >> >> Here's where a comment would go. My Word program identifies what words in >> the text this comment is about by coloring them and giving them a number. >> Extrahat the comments appear in two different places--one, in a list on the >> left hand sidey coloring them, and giving them a nu >> >> 3. All in all, for a JAWS user, this seems a terribly cumbersome process, >> especially for a 300-page document where there will be comments on nearly >> every page, as well as strike-through and other attributes. Am I just >> showing the anxiety of one new to a task? Is there a method that will work >> better for me and is equally convenient for the editor? >> >> I hope I've made myself clear. Thanks especially to Ed Marquette and Jean >> Menzies for their posts on this topic. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 03/42ed91ce/attachment.html> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> > > > -- > Kimberly > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 37 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:53:32 -0500 From: Anna Byrne <[email protected]> To: Adrian Spratt <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: speech and Sounds Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I wonder if the color recognition in skim reading would serve you better? Only if you just wanted to skim to the color, though. >Hi. I'm trying to set up a speech and sound scheme that will issue a >tone each time I land on colored text in Word. I go through the >entire process, save the scheme with a new name, and click OK when >asked if I want to run JAWS with this scheme. I then go to my Word >document with some colored text, press "say all," and... Nothing. >JAWS keeps reading and no pleasant piano notes alert me to the color change. > >Can anyone suggest what I might be missing? > >Is it possible that my synthesizer limits what I can do with speech >and sounds? I have a Dectalk Express, which understandably limits my >options in other areas, but I don't understand why it would prevent >JAWS from playing a sound. I do get sounds in other JAWS contexts, >such as when entering and exiting forms mode, settings I made myself. > >Thanks. >-------------- next part -------------- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: ><http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20140 804/bf7b4f56/attachment.html> >_______________________________________________ >Jfw mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 38 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 21:24:59 -0500 From: Brad Martin <[email protected]> To: Gerald Levy <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: getting traveling directions Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" In all fairness to Mario, how Google Maps displays for you depends on your browser. If you're still using IE 8 in Windows XP, it's probably just as Gerald has described. If you're using a newer browser, the default interface is a trainwreck, but you can revert back to the classic version of Google Maps. Unfortunately, I can't give you step-by-step instructions for making this change right now, but you honestly can "Google" it. Brad Martin [email protected] www.facebook.com/ucoupons On 8/4/2014 10:55 AM, Gerald Levy via Jfw wrote: > > I don't understand why you are having trouble using Google Maps. Just > click on maps from the Google home page, and then click on the link > labeled get directions. On this page, you can enter your starting and > ending addresses in the appropriate edit fields. On the results page, > you can choose to display directions by car, by public transportation > or by walking. The directions for each mode of travel are given in > detailed steps that are easily read by JAWS. > > Gerald > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mario Brusco via Jfw" > <[email protected]> > To: "Dave Durber" <[email protected]>; "The Jaws for Windows support > list." <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 10:58 AM > Subject: getting traveling directions > > >> hi fellow listers, I am in need of getting directions to a destination >> address and wanted to know if there is an accessible/usable service >> that I >> can use? I tried Google Maps but it's somewhat difficult to make >> heads/tales of things like where to type in the starting and destination >> address among choosing the few options and reviewing the >> results/steps in a >> text layout. >> >> MapQuest has gone totally graphical, and their classic interface does >> not >> exist anymore. So what else is there for us screen reader users? Anyone? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > -- Brad Martin [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> My general shopping page: www.formyfriends.org <http://www.formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons> My Upromise Guest Shopping Link: upromise.com/guest/2248989069 <http://www.upromise.com/guest/2248989069> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 04/420ee64b/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Message: 39 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 04:48:44 -0400 From: "Chris Jenkins" <[email protected]> To: "'Anna Byrne'" <[email protected]>,"'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Excel, protecting cells after tdata has been entered Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello. I would protect the sheet and lock the stuff that I did not want to be edited. When you lock a cell. You can either said it for no editing, no reading or both. If the stuff that shouldn't be edited is something like row labels are column labels. I would him protect the sheet long enough to let Jaws for windows nowhere the labels are. Once this is done, I would protect the sheet again. Now you should be able to move around in the data that you were permitted to move around in while your labels are still spoken. I hope this helps. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anna Byrne via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 5:49 PM To: Adrian Spratt; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Excel, protecting cells after tdata has been entered How do I tell Excel that there is data in a cell and nobody should write over it? Our office uses colors to indicate that you can't write, but without querying each cell individually, my student is not aware of data being written. thanks, >Jess, > >Could it be you're already activated? If it's just a question of >installing an updated or new version of JAWS on a system that is >already activated with JAWS, you shouldn't need to go through this process. > >Otherwise, if calling FS tech support is an option for you, I'd do >that. If I'm not mistaken, one of the choices on their phone system >is for activation. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jess >Killian via Jfw >Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:55 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Activation help > >Hi, > > I am attempting to activate JAWS version 15. Each time I press >the activate button, I get brought back to the screen where JAWS says >the version. I have used the space bar and the enter key but with the >same result. I do not understand why these key strokes are not working >to activate this version. I have been able to activate older versions >by pressing either the space bar or enter on the update authorization >button. Any help with this matter is greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Jess > > > >_______________________________________________ >Jfw mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > >_______________________________________________ >Jfw mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 40 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 04:06:15 -0500 From: "Howard Traxler" <[email protected]> To: "Chris Jenkins" <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]>, "'Anna Byrne'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Excel, protecting cells after tdata has been entered Message-ID: <B38B8B65A5514C68BFC128D65F98144D@HOWARD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How does one tell JAWS bout the labels so they will be spoken? Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Jenkins via Jfw" <[email protected]> To: "'Anna Byrne'" <[email protected]>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 3:48 AM Subject: RE: Excel, protecting cells after tdata has been entered > Hello. > > I would protect the sheet and lock the stuff that I did not want to be > edited. When you lock a cell. You can either said it for no editing, no > reading or both. If the stuff that shouldn't be edited is something like > row labels are column labels. I would him protect the sheet long enough to > let Jaws for windows nowhere the labels are. Once this is done, I would > protect the sheet again. Now you should be able to move around in the data > that you were permitted to move around in while your labels are still > spoken. > > I hope this helps. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anna Byrne via > Jfw > Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 5:49 PM > To: Adrian Spratt; The Jaws for Windows support list. > Subject: Excel, protecting cells after tdata has been entered > > How do I tell Excel that there is data in a cell and nobody should > write over it? Our office uses colors to indicate that you can't > write, but without querying each cell individually, my student is not > aware of data being written. > > thanks, > >>Jess, >> >>Could it be you're already activated? If it's just a question of >>installing an updated or new version of JAWS on a system that is >>already activated with JAWS, you shouldn't need to go through this process. >> >>Otherwise, if calling FS tech support is an option for you, I'd do >>that. If I'm not mistaken, one of the choices on their phone system >>is for activation. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jess >>Killian via Jfw >>Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 12:55 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Activation help >> >>Hi, >> >> I am attempting to activate JAWS version 15. Each time I press >>the activate button, I get brought back to the screen where JAWS says >>the version. I have used the space bar and the enter key but with the >>same result. I do not understand why these key strokes are not working >>to activate this version. I have been able to activate older versions >>by pressing either the space bar or enter on the update authorization >>button. Any help with this matter is greatly appreciated. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Jess >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Jfw mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 41 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 07:30:26 -0400 From: Kimber Gardner <[email protected]> To: Adrian Spratt <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: JAWS and MS Word 2010 comments Message-ID: <cac+yxvliaywkdxuxnnd37utans0lrbxapdmuelbd3krvv9l...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Adrian, In order to edit and therefore read a comment I usually have to use the arrow keys and move by character through the text where the comment has been inserted. As with many of these functions it's a little flaky but what seems to work best is arrowing until you here "out of commented text" then back arrow once. Now route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor and right click. This should open a menu that will allow you to edit, delete or insert a comment. I find the escape key works most consistently to get me out of the comment and back to my document. I'm pasting below my instructions for finding color highlighting. This function is also rather quirky, but I think that is an ms word bug rather than a jaws oddity as my sighted husband has issues with it as well. * To find highlights in a document: Press control+H to open the find dialogue. Click the find what field. Activate the more button then tab to format and arrow down to highlight. Press enter. The critical piece seems to be to click the find what field before activating the highlight button. I hope this works for you. Remember, be persistent. It does work but requires patience. Kimber On 8/3/14, Adrian Spratt via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi. An editor wants to use Word 2010's comments to send me her thoughts on a > 300-page document. I've never used this feature before. She has sent me a > short sample to see if JAWS can read the comments. > > After reading a number of posts I saved on the subject from this list and > the relevant section in CathyAnne Murtha's textbook, I cannot solve the > following problems. > > I know to bring up comments in context by pressing control+shift+apostrophe. > With Windows key+semicolon, I can also create a text file consisting of all > the comments. Here are the problems I've identified so far: > > 1. When reading a comment in context after pressing > control+shift+apostrophe, I'd like to navigate it with the arrow keys. > However, nothing happens. I can repeat the entire text to my heart's > content, but not isolate words and phrases. > > 2. I can isolate words and phrases when I bring up all the comments in the > Win key+semicolon text file. However, this is not ideal for two reasons. > First, it will require me to do a lot of cross-referencing between the > document's primary text and the comments page I've created. Second, after > checking the JAWS text against a sighted person's reading of the text in the > printed comments, I find there's additional text in the JAWS version. > Additional text might be a smaller problem than less text, but it is > distracting and makes me worry that the JAWS version might prove unreliable > in other ways. > > Here's a sample comment. Everything after the peculiar word "extrahat" > appears in the JAWS version but not the print original: > > Here's where a comment would go. My Word program identifies what words in > the text this comment is about by coloring them and giving them a number. > Extrahat the comments appear in two different places--one, in a list on the > left hand sidey coloring them, and giving them a nu > > 3. All in all, for a JAWS user, this seems a terribly cumbersome process, > especially for a 300-page document where there will be comments on nearly > every page, as well as strike-through and other attributes. Am I just > showing the anxiety of one new to a task? Is there a method that will work > better for me and is equally convenient for the editor? > > I hope I've made myself clear. Thanks especially to Ed Marquette and Jean > Menzies for their posts on this topic. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 03/42ed91ce/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > -- Kimberly ------------------------------ Message: 42 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 11:57:13 +0000 From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <[email protected]> To: Cy Selfridge <[email protected]>, The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Jaws overlap Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've done as many as three--two at the office and one at home. It's not common, but once or twice the job has required it. In fact, I may be doing it starting today. I guess the only bad news is you can't reuse a key the way you could back in the days of floppy drives, but FS is quite decent about replacing keys, when necessary. Ted -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 6:16 PM To: 'Cliff Self'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Jaws overlap You are entitled to run JAWS on two machines so long as both are yours. Cy -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cliff Self via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 2:52 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list Subject: Jaws overlap I'm getting a new computer and for a brief time will need to run Jaws on both the new and old ones. Are there any legal or practical considerations here? thanks, Cliff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 04/49b672a6/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 43 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 12:04:13 +0000 From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <[email protected]> To: Adrian Spratt <[email protected]>, "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> Subject: RE: speech and Sounds Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Check to make sure wave files are allowed simultaneous with speech. Go to the default profile in Settings Center, and look under synthesizers. Ted -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 7:23 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: speech and Sounds Hi. I'm trying to set up a speech and sound scheme that will issue a tone each time I land on colored text in Word. I go through the entire process, save the scheme with a new name, and click OK when asked if I want to run JAWS with this scheme. I then go to my Word document with some colored text, press "say all," and... Nothing. JAWS keeps reading and no pleasant piano notes alert me to the color change. Can anyone suggest what I might be missing? Is it possible that my synthesizer limits what I can do with speech and sounds? I have a Dectalk Express, which understandably limits my options in other areas, but I don't understand why it would prevent JAWS from playing a sound. I do get sounds in other JAWS contexts, such as when entering and exiting forms mode, settings I made myself. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201408 04/bf7b4f56/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ------------------------------ Message: 44 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 09:04:16 -0400 From: "Chris Jenkins" <[email protected]> To: "'Lisle, Ted \(CHFS DMS\)'" <[email protected]>,"'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: speech and Sounds Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello. I don't think this setting matters since the original poster is using a hardware speech synthesizer. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:04 AM To: Adrian Spratt; The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: speech and Sounds Check to make sure wave files are allowed simultaneous with speech. Go to the default profile in Settings Center, and look under synthesizers. Ted -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 7:23 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: speech and Sounds Hi. I'm trying to set up a speech and sound scheme that will issue a tone each time I land on colored text in Word. I go through the entire process, save the scheme with a new name, and click OK when asked if I want to run JAWS with this scheme. I then go to my Word document with some colored text, press "say all," and... Nothing. JAWS keeps reading and no pleasant piano notes alert me to the color change. Can anyone suggest what I might be missing? Is it possible that my synthesizer limits what I can do with speech and sounds? I have a Dectalk Express, which understandably limits my options in other areas, but I don't understand why it would prevent JAWS from playing a sound. I do get sounds in other JAWS contexts, such as when entering and exiting forms mode, settings I made myself. Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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