The one below is quick keys on-off.  For Word the default is off.  As for the 
Win-;, I'd never used that, but it could prove really handy.  Wonder if it 
works for footnotes.  Incidentally, neither combination is unique to 16, in 
case others on the list want to play around.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Ford via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:57 PM
To: Artur Räpp; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [AccessSTEM] Help with study on helping blind persons 
independently format documents

There is a JAWS command, Windows key plus ;, and that brings up a box with four 
choices, revisions being one of them.  Press enter, and JAWS sets up a very 
handy list box separately showing each revision.  Each has a link that takes 
you directly to that portion of the document.  This is probably the same as 
that described below, the only difference being how you get to that point.

-----Original Message-----
From: Artur Räppvia Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 7:35 PM
To: 'Gudrun Brunot' ; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [AccessSTEM] Help with study on helpingblind persons independently 
format documents

Hello

I use JAWS quick keys for track changes (jaws key+z, then r) With this command 
I can move from one change to an other and JAWS reads it.

HTH
Artur
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot via 
Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 11:47 PM
To: 'Hamid Hamraz'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [AccessSTEM] Help with study on helping blind persons 
independently format documents

Dear Lourdes: This is such a valuable endeavor. I have hair-raising examples I 
could sent you, only, it would be illegal. I am a translator, and I 
occasionally get assignments that involve working with track changes. We're not 
just talking about someone deleting something that I wrote and replaced it with 
another word. I'm talking about a text that another person generated. The 
document was then translated. The originator decided to make changes to the 
original. This revised document was submitted to the translator, so he would 
apply the changes to the second version of the target document. This was sent 
to me--that is, both the original document with the originator's revisions, 
plus the second version of the translated documents, with the revisions 
applied--we hope. My job was to be comparing these two latest documents and 
make sure all the revisions had been applied.

In theory, there are ways of dealing with revisions in JAWS. You will hear JAWS 
say "revision" as you read the text line by line, but there is nothing that 
really shows exactly when a deletion starts/ends, when an insertion 
starts/ends, and so on. Not to speak of deleted/inserted spaces. If you go over 
the line character by character, you have some chance of seeing start and end, 
but it gets hairy indeed if the revisions stretch over several lines or pages. 
Changed formats are another headache. I have sent a letter to Freedom 
Scientific, actually to one of its trainer, proposing that there be settings in 
the braille display preferences to not only show that there is an attribute 
(dots 7-8), but to differentiate them--dot 7 for deletions or strike-through 
which is actually a font option as well, and dot 8 for insertion. Trouble is, 
insertion is not a font option, so that has to be set up in some other way.

Sound could also be used. I'd love an ascending piano two-note plink for "start 
insertion" and a descending one for "end insertion." A two-part click for 
"start deletion" and a reverse one for "end deletion". That could be a sound 
scheme, and it should work whether you're reading the text from beginning to 
end, line by line, word by word, etc.

So, I'm sorry I can't send you the documents from hell--they would be truly 
fantastic examples of how things do not work for us. I asked the agency if I 
could use them, and the answer was nope.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hamid Hamraz via 
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 10:29 PM
To: JFW; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Fw: [AccessSTEM] Help with study on helping blind persons 
independently format documents

    Sorry folks if this is off-topic, but it will potentially be helpful to all 
blind people.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lourdes Morales Villaverde
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 8:51 PM
Subject: [AccessSTEM] Help with study on helping blind persons 
independentlyformat documents


Greetings,




I'm part of a group of researchers from the University of California, Santa 
Cruz. We are investigating ways in which tools may assist blind people with 
tasks related to document formatting, and as a first step we need to gather 
information about document formatting practices, errors and barriers of blind 
persons. To do this, we need to collect a large number and variety of documents 
that were created and formatted by blind persons (with at most light 
perception) without help from sighted persons.



Please help us by providing your documents. As this is a National Science 
Foundation study, we follow a strict rule of maintaining your and your 
documents’ confidentiality and destroying documents after the study is finished.


We will run a draw for two $50 Amazon gift certificate as a token of 
appreciation for those who provide us with at least 5 documents created with 
any word processor (Microsoft Word, Apple Pages, etc.). Please only send us 
documents that are at least 3 pages long.

If you are interested in helping us, please email your documents to 
[email protected]. Also, if you know someone who fits the criteria and might be 
interested in helping us, please forward this email. We really appreciate your 
help.

Thank you for you time.


Best regards,

--
Lourdes M. Morales Villaverde
Computer Science Ph.D. Student
Interactive Systems for Individuals with Special Needs Lab Baskin School of 
Engineering University of California, Santa Cruz


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