Hi Carolyn Can you tell me more about the Opticon and how it works for you? Happy to chat off forum at [email protected]
-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:14 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Carolyn Arnold Subject: Re: PDF documents With an Optacon, I can read floor plans. Remember, life is what you make it, Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Nickel via Jfw" <[email protected]> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Cc: "Greg Nickel" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 3:24 PM Subject: RE: PDF documents > Can you tell me if JAWS 16converts the pictures into text boxes on the > Word > doc? > > On the idea of conveying a picture other than visually, I could see a > tactile display coming in handy is for technical drawings like > architectural > or > otherwise that are line based drawings. > > I do a lot of work with architectural and for now I have someone draw over > the lines with a vinyl tactile marking tube. Any other ideas that might > be > better? > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted > (CHFS DMS) via Jfw > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:18 PM > To: The Jaws for Windows support list. > Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) > Subject: RE: PDF documents > > When you come down to it, how do you read a picture anyway? Sure, you can > extract text, but how do you read, for example, a photograph? Place a > center fold on a scanner, and a male synth will emit a deep heart-felt > sigh! > All kidding aside, how could a screen reader convey meaningful > information. > I suppose a tactile display might be able to do it two-dimensionally. > > Ted > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andre > Jarreau > via Jfw > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 2:19 PM > To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' > Cc: Andre Jarreau > Subject: RE: PDF documents > > I'm told the resulting Word doc is an exact replica of the original PDF > including graphics and images, photos etc. However only the text of the > document is visible to screenreaders. Wish graphics and images were > readable by Jaws but they are not. > I've heard there is soon to be released a device called something like > BumpPad It's said to be a tactile I-Pad type device made for blind people. > I don't know who makes it or when it will be released. It was described > as > being able to read graphs and possibly images. Don't know any more than > that. I will for sure be looking for it when it hits the market. > > Andre > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel > via Jfw > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:31 PM > To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' > Cc: Greg Nickel > Subject: RE: PDF documents > > How does 16 do with the conversion of graphics or pictures in a pdf? I > have > been holding back from updating to 16 to let the bugs get worked out but > converting pdf's to word docs is a fairly useful tool especially if it > does > it as accurately as you say. > because > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andre > Jarreau > via Jfw > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:20 AM > To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' > Cc: Andre Jarreau > Subject: RE: PDF documents > > Yeah, using Win7 and J16 latest build. The pDF copied and pasted into > Word2010 readily. It is now a Word doc and reads as though it were > written > in Word2010. Truly I['m a little blown away for the quality. Perhaps > this > one conversion was a fluke. For now I'm hopeful. > > Andre > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted > (CHFS DMS) via Jfw > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:14 AM > To: The Jaws for Windows support list. > Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) > Subject: RE: PDF documents > > No, I remember there were paragraph marks after every line. Of course, > that > was years ago, prior to AR 3.0. As for the image problem, that can be a > bear, depending upon the quality you have to work with. I have an old > Kenwood product manual that still looks strange, but is now useable, > thanks > to 16. > > Ted > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andre > Jarreau > via Jfw > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 4:57 PM > To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' > Cc: Andre Jarreau > Subject: RE: PDF documents > > Ted, I'm not sure what you mean by it not being the most attractive > document > around. The PDF Copied and pasted into Word is surprisingly clean and > reads > with no errors. Or are you talking about an image being converted into > text. That is often a mess as you say. > Andre > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted > (CHFS DMS) via Jfw > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:30 PM > To: The Jaws for Windows support list. > Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) > Subject: RE: PDF documents > > Andre's way is an oldie but a goody. I used it back before AR was > accessible; but Bill is right, it won't do a thing for an image file. > Even > when it works, it's not the most attractive document around. > > Ted > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill White > via > Jfw > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:31 PM > To: The Jaws for Windows support list. > Cc: Bill White > Subject: Re: PDF documents > > That's not going to work in this case, because all she is getting in the > document are graphics. She may need to convert the document with OCR > software such as OpenBook. she can also use the services of RoboBraille if > she can upload the document. > > I'll include the link for her here. > > http://robobraille.org/ > > Bill White [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andre Jarreau via Jfw" <[email protected]> > To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Andre Jarreau" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:25 PM > Subject: RE: PDF documents > > >> Another possible way. I did this yesterday. Opened a 245 page PDF. >> Then > >> I >> selected all using control-A. Then copied and pasted directly into a >> blank Word doc. Then saved the Word Doc under the book title name. >> Now it opens in Word remarkably fast and reads very well. It might be >> searchable. >> Hope >> this helps. >> >> I use latest J16, Office and Word 2010 on my I5 Dell laptop. >> >> Best >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ann >> Byrne via Jfw >> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:57 PM >> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. >> Cc: Ann Byrne >> Subject: Re: PDF documents >> >> If you have JAWS 16, have it convert the document for you. Press >> insert-spacebar, then the letter o for optical character recognition, >> then d for document, and let it run. When JAWS has finished, the >> document is not only readable, but it can be copied and saved into >> another form, such as Word or text. >> >> good luck! >> At 08:30 PM 7/15/2015, you wrote: >>>My office has a program that is supposed to convert pdf documents to >>>searchable text. The issue is that my sighted colleague said that >>>she could do a search of this one large document and find different >>>words in >> it. >>>However JAWS just read "graphic" Graphic" and gave me some numbers of >>>the graphics. I'm wondering what is happening here, does anyone have >>>any >> ideas? >>>Thanks! >>> >>>Bar >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Jfw mailing list >>>[email protected] >>>http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jfw mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 11946 (20150715) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 11946 (20150715) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Jfw mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com > _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
