Joe: Do you recommend having fast start up on or off?
Dan -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Jfw Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 4:07 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Joseph Lee Subject: RE: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8 Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer Hi Debbie and list: That's because Mark might have been confused in terminology: it's actually called Fast Startup. Let me explain what it truly does (a bit technical here, but will try to boil this down a bit): When Windows boots, it needs to read in needed data one at a time in multiple phases. First, whether you are booting into Safe Mode is determined, then Windows kernel (the heart of the operating system), called NTOSKrnl.exe (Windows NT Operating System Kernel) determines type of CPU, amount of RAM, devices present and so on. Once the kernel is ready, it'll ask the video card to display the Windows logo on screen, then other parts of Windows responsible for loading user profiles will display a login prompt (if configured to do so), and if the user successfully logs in, Windows will start programs that will start automatically (including JAWS) and apply user settings (this is collectively called a "session", and there is a subsystem in Windows (called Session Manager Subsystem or SMSS.exe) that manages this; when you use Windows, at least two sessions become active: session 0 (services) and session N (where N is the currently logged in user). During shutdown, Windows will first close programs you were using, and if an app does not respond, it'll pop up a dialog saying one or more apps are not responding and ask if you wish to shutdown anyway (you may get this prompt from time to time). Once the user logs off, Windows will terminate services (including JAWS if told to run as a service), save user settings (including registry changes) and turn your computer off completely. This is a full startup/shutdown cycle. As opposed to the above cycle, Microsoft has found a way to just turn off user session (Windows 8.0 and later). When the computer shuts down, if Fast Startup (technically called Hybrid Boot) is in use, Windows will log off the user (save profiles, close programs, etc.), then the system services will enter hibernation (where current physical memory content is stored on a disk). Next time the computer boots, Windows system services will resume from where they have left off, then users will be prompted to log in. This is useful on newer computers which uses a newer firmware type called Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI), as the boot process is simpler than older BIOS (Basic Input/Output System) firmware (I'll not go into details on how these firmware boots, as this is too off topic here; ask me offlist) or those using SSD's (Solid State Drives). The reason why you hear "JAWS for Windows" when you turn off your computer is because you have Fast Startup (or Hybrid Boot) turned on. To change this behavior, follow Mark's instructions, but look for Fast Startup instead. Hybrid Boot should not be confused with Fast User Switching (Windows XP and later): Fast User Switching lets someone else log into your computer via a different user account (provided there are multiple user accounts) without stopping programs you were using (you'll be logged off first). On PC's (client Windows versions), only one user can use the computer at a time, but on server systems, multiple users can log in simultaneously (this includes Remote Desktop accounts). References: Full startup/shutdown sequence: * Ionescu, Alex, Solomon, David A., Russinovich, Mark E. Windows Internals, Sixth Edition Part 2 (Windows 7), Microsoft Press, 2012. Hybrid Boot: * Sinofsky, Steven. Delivering fast boot times in Windows 8, MSDN Building Windows 8 blog, September 8, 2011. URL: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/08/delivering-fast-boot-times-in- windows-8.aspx * Woods, Ben. Windows 8 'hybrid' mode brings faster boot, ZDNet, September 9, 2011. URL: http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-8-hybrid-mode-brings-faster-boot/ * Shultz, Greg. How Windows 8 Hybrid Shutdown / Fast Boot feature works, TechRepublic, October 24, 2013. URL: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/how-windows-8-hybrid-shu tdown-fast-boot-feature-works/ UEFI boot process: * UEFI boot: how does that actually work, then (Adam W), January 25, 2014. URL: https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/uefi-boot-how-does-that-actually-wo rk-then/ Windows sessions: * Hameed, C. Sessions, Desktops and Windows Stations, Ask the Performance Team, TechNet, July 24, 2007. URL: http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2007/07/24/sessions-desktops-and- windows-stations.aspx Although these references refer to old Windows releases (Windows Vista, 7 and 8.x), it applies to Windows 10, and some of these are quite technical. Hope this helps. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Debbie April Yuille via Jfw Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:13 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Debbie April Yuille Subject: RE: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8 Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer Hi Mark I've followed your steps, but I don't see an option to disable fast user switching. I do however see an option to turn off fast start up though. Thanks Debbie -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw Sent: Wednesday, 12 August 2015 5:23 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <[email protected]> Cc: Mark <[email protected]> Subject: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8 Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer Hello Everyone, The following steps will work in both Windows 10 and Windows 8.x in order to disable the Fast-User switching option. Doing this will allow your computer to truly be shut-down as it was in Windows 7 and earlier. To disable Fast-User Switching, do the following: 1. Access Windows 10 Power Options. This can easily be achieved using several methods: a. Right click in the lower left corner of the screen (or simultaneously press the Windows + X keys). This will bring up an 'Admin' menu. Simply select Power Options from that menu. b. >From within the Desktop; navigate to Control Panel>Power Options. Or c. >From within the Start Screen; type "power", click on Settings, and select Power Options from the list of results: 2. In the 'Power Options' window; click on Choose what the power buttons do (from the left hand panel): 3. In the new window; click on Change settings that are currently unavailable: 4. Uncheck Fast user switching. That's all there is to it. 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