I like Dave's approach. In a surprising number of instances, I've had JAWS seemingly come back to life after unplugging a sound card or device. Here I'm talking about a USB sound card or a USB headset. Who knows? This seems to work for some reason, but perhaps the activity of just doing something makes the wait seem shorter. Perhaps I'll try Dave's approach to see if it produces the same results. <SMILE>
-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Dave Carlson Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Jim, Yes, I usually just get a shot of single malt to get me through the wait. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <[email protected]> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 01:16 PM Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Dave: You have more patience than I. If JAWS does not return within a minute or so, I do a (you should excuse the expression) blind shutdown of JAWS, go to the DESKTOP, where I have already placed the focus, and reopened JAWS. Mind you, if a good pair of eyes is ready/willing/able, not to mention actually present, I am not shy about asking for help in case something is going on - un related to JAWS. However, when no "eyes" are around, it feels like the world has been shut off; so, I know what you mean by waiting for nothing. I usually try to find something else to do. Jim H -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:02 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> Cc: Dave Carlson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Jim, Pretty much hit-or-miss. It would depend on the Operating System + Video Device Driver + JAWS Version + Program Version + Unknown Gremlins. Very hard to duplicate symptoms with so many variables. I do know that JAWS 16 tendency to close and reopen without any warning is a bit of a thorn in my side. There are times when it won't come back at all, and I'm sitting there with my hands poised, waiting for nothing. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <[email protected]> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:43 AM Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Dave: Very enlightening! For some reason, I never got around to, nor frankly considered, uninstalling previous versions of JAWS, and this may have proven to be "far-sighted" after all. I think that I may adopt your 3 most-recent version strategy myself. However, once someone moves to Windows 10, previous JAWS versions will not work - from what I gather. However, it may be a while before I upgrade to Windows 10. So, for now, are there some applications that typically misbehave with the latest JAWS offering? Or, as with many things, it is pretty much a hit or miss situation? Thanks. Jim H -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:02 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> Cc: Dave Carlson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Jim, As to previous versions -- simply because the current install is running fine, it does not mean that it will run so with all applications. I occasionally run JAWS 15 when JAWS 16 is misbehaving in a particular program. I delete versions older than 3 major revisions back, just to keep things simpler. And I still have all the executables for last revisions of all major versions going back to 3.5. Of course that's just my anal-retentive nature at work, having sufficient hard disk space to justify that level of insanity. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <[email protected]> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <[email protected]> Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 09:30 AM Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Don't mean to be "smart"; but, why would you want to use previous versions of JAWS if you have the latest version running successfully. I'm sure that there is a really good reason for it! :) :) Jim H -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john.falter via Jfw Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:19 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <[email protected]> Cc: john.falter <[email protected]> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? What I lose is the ability to use previous versions of JAWS. On 8/9/2015 8:21 PM, Gary King via Jfw wrote: > The free feed is to lure the deer into the killing ground. I don't > think the free Windows 10 upgrade offer is quite that sinister > though. Just good old Microsoft's way of trying to keep it's dominant > position. > > Gary King > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" > <[email protected]> > To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> > Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:06 AM > Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? > > >> Are you saying Win10 smells? Hard to make out the meaning of this, >> um, adage. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Daniel >> McBride via Jfw >> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 AM >> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' >> Cc: Daniel McBride >> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? >> >> As I pointed out earlier, a deer gets free feed at his local deer stand >> feeder. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian >> Spratt >> via Jfw >> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:05 PM >> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. >> Cc: Adrian Spratt >> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? >> >> Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers >> to the >> end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm >> waiting >> for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first >> rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill >> White via >> Jfw >> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM >> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. >> Cc: Bill White >> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? >> >> What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade, >> Windows10 won't be free anymore. >> Bill White [email protected] >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brad Martin via Jfw" <[email protected]> >> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <[email protected]> >> Cc: "Brad Martin" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM >> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and >>> I just have a question (with a lot of background first): >>> >>> So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm >>> doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; >>> you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that >>> now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. >>> (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to >>> indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. >>> >>> So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to >>> know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating >>> system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can >>> see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where >>> Windows >>> 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should >>> cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it >>> ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to >>> know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in >>> the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning >>> computer to see if it will still function. >>> >>> P.S. 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