Hi Mark, Yes, you do have a Touch Cursor, follow these notes & it will be explained: Original Message From: Londa Peterson I have found that I can navigate malwarebytes with the touch cursor. This even works in Windows 7. In fact, I find that the touch cursor works better than the JAWS cursor most of the time these days. Sometimes I think I even get access to more content than I ever did with the JAWS cursor. Give it a try. Londa
From: Maria Campbell Touch cursor in Windows 7? Where to find it? How to access it? Sunny Day Maria Campbell From: Londa Peterson Press shift with the PC cursor command. Press the PC cursor twice to turn it off. The gestures won't work in Windows 7 of course, but the keyboard commands will. If you go into JAWS help and search for touch cursor, you should find a list of the keyboard commands. If you can't find it, I'll post a copy if necessary. Londa From: Dave Carlson Shift+NumPad Enter will activate touch cursor. Pressing NumPad Enter twice quickly will return to PC cursor. Haven't experimented yet with it, but it does come up in Windows 7. Dave Carlson From: Dave Carlson Oops. Should have been NumPad Plus, not NumPad Enter. Sorry. Dave Carlson From: Dave Carlson Here's more information, cut from the JAWS Keyboard Help pages: Using the Touch Cursor Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new Touch Cursor enables you to use the ARROW keys on your computer's keyboard, or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS, or SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON if using the laptop keyboard layout, to activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (NUM PAD PLUS) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message "Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor. The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application, press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor. Navigating With the Touch Cursor To move to the next or previous object on the screen, press RIGHT or LEFT ARROW. You can also use TAB or SHIFT+TAB. To move by a specific object type, press UP or DOWN ARROW. By default, the UP and DOWN ARROWS will move by regions, or by groups if you are on the Windows 8 Start Screen. To change what object type these commands move by, press PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN to cycle through the available types using the navigation rotor. For example, if you want the UP or DOWN ARROW keys to move by headings, press PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN until you hear "headings. Now, pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move to the next or previous heading. Press CTRL+HOME to move to the first object and press CTRL+END to move to the last object. To announce the current object, press INSERT+UP ARROW. To perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the application and speak each object, press INSERT+DOWN ARROW. As you navigate using the ARROW keys, the system focus does not follow the Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate through objects without changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing SPACEBAR or ENTER on the current object will move focus to that object and perform the appropriate action. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box, or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of the Touch cursor for sighted users. To quickly move the Touch Cursor to the object that currently has focus, press INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS, or CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE if using the laptop keyboard layout. JAWS will route the Touch Cursor to the currently selected object and announce it. The Touch Cursor will remain active after performing this command. To determine what object types will be announced as you navigate with the Touch Cursor, press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, then move to Configure Types. This group lists all available types that can be navigated to using the Touch Cursor. Use the SPACEBAR to select or clear a type. Types that are selected are announced while types that are not selected are ignored. Note: The Configure Types option only appears in Quick Settings if the Touch Cursor is currently active when Quick Settings is opened. Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links, form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual PC Cursor. By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support typing in the main window. For example, the Windows 8 News app lets you type so you can quickly locate specific stories. If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press INSERT+Z while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch Navigation Quick Keys on or off. The following Navigation Quick Keys are available: Note: You can add the SHIFT Key to any of these commands to move to the previous occurrence of that element. A - Next radio button B - Next button C - Next combo box D - Next document E - Next edit field F - Next form field G - Next image H - Next heading I - Next list item K - Next link L - Next list M - Next menu O - Next tool bar P - Next pane Q - Next tab R - Next region S - Next occurrence of static text T - Next table U - Next group V - Next tree view X - Next check box Z - Next status b Dave Carlson From: Londa Peterson Here's some more from the JAWS help Touch Cursor SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS Next Object RIGHT ARROW or TAB Prior Object LEFT ARROW or SHIFT+TAB Next Object by Type DOWN ARROW Prior Object by Type UP ARROW Cycle Through Object Navigation Types PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN First Object CTRL+HOME Last Object CTRL+END Say Current Object INSERT+UP ARROW Say All with Touch Cursor INSERT+DOWN ARROW Route Touch Cursor to Focused Object INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS Text Review NUM PAD SLASH or INSERT+ENTER Advanced Navigation NUM PAD STAR Londa From: Londa Peterson Actually, I use the keyboard commands for said gestures. I don't have a touch screen on my Windows 7 computer. It seems to do what the JAWS cursor used to do. I haven't had a whole lot of luck with the JAWS cursor of late, and several people have told me that this works. So I decided to give it a try, and it works quite well. Londa From: Londa Peterson The touch cursor was introduced in JAWS 15 in order to allow JAWS to work with modern apps. In Windows 8 and above you can use the touch screen with gestures or keyboard commands that simulate the gestures. In Windows 7 you can't use the screen gestures even if you happen to have a touch screen, but you can use the keyboard commands. They've gotten me out of many a jam. Londa Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Furness via Jfw To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Mark Furness Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:29 PM Subject: Re: jaws not reading screens is it just me? I do not have a touch cursor. I believe you mean a touch screen? Mark > On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mark via Jfw <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Mark, > > I have not yet installed Firefox on my Windows 10 PC but I have had much > success using the Jaws Touch Cursor when attempting to read dialog boxes > and > such. > > Perhaps you should give the Touch cursor a try. > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Furness > via Jfw > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 10:47 AM > To: The Jaws for Windows support list. > Cc: Mark Furness > Subject: jaws not reading screens is it just me? > > Running windows10 and jaws 16 most internet reading with firefox jaws will > not read the screen. Doing jaws cursor or invisible cursor makes no > differance.I hear ok at time but can not read what I am saying ok to. > Never > had this problem in windows7. 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