Thanks David, Yes I read before this point about control left or gith arrow, it is really helpful, I didn't know this keystrokes to navigate by groups. Would be nice if when press tab inside a group, jaws go back to the first item in that group instead jump to the other group. Any way, it is very helpful, thanks David.
-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Bailes via Jfw Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 3:29 AM To: Jfw <[email protected]> Cc: David Bailes <[email protected]> Subject: Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons Hi Pablo, when using the standard windows keystrokes to navigate the ribbon in office 2010 or later, you can use the keystrokes ctrl+left/right arrow to move between the groups of controls on the active tab - this can greatly reduce the number of tabs that have to be pressed. The following guide to file explorer in windows 8.1 has a section on the ribbon. There are some minor differences between the ribbon in file explorer and office, but no major ones. http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/File-Explorer-8p1-Guide.html David. original message: Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the keystrokes associated with each item in the ribbons? Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the ribbons, with the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very easy to get lost navigating with the tab key only. But with the virtual ribbons on, the keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I don't know what is worse, if the virtual ribbons on or off. But if I need to get to a place in the ribbon, I have no way to learn the keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons and pressing tab many many times, and probably getting lost. So I see both ways very inconvenient. Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the logic structure of the ribbons,? I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons is very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons, but the ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be so efficient in the future either. So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through the virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the structure of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each item on the ribbons? Thanks _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list [email protected] http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
