Hello:

I'm replying here, not to perpetuate this worn-out topic, but rather to 
answer a legitimate, and I believe, well-taken question.  The only 
veendor I know for sure to be using this system is HJ; though I have 
heard through another lister that Kurzweil used to do it but has now 
abandoned it.  Teresa Cochran is now researching that and will, I 
believe, report on it when she has the complete story.  GW Micro's 
Window-Eyes definitely does not use any kind of copy protection in 
version 3.0 or in any earlier version I have seen.

As to how wide-spread such schemes are, I really can't say.  As I have 
previously mentioned, Lotus Development used to use a system in which 
you had only one install on a disk, and had to get a new one if you 
needed to re-install.  Gerber, which produces sign-making software, uses 
a "Blue Box to prevent installation on an unauthorized system.  Of 
course, we all know about Microsoft's CD key system.  Beyond that, I 
really cannot provide any further information.  I trust what I have 
provided will prove useful.


>From: Peter donahue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Jfw authorization disk. Is it good for the blind?
>Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:03:08 -0600
>
>       Good morning listers,
>
>       I just came in from taking the dog out for his morning airing and 
while he
>was relieving himself I had a thought on this whole authorization 
scheeme.
>Does anyone know how wide-spread the use of these scheemes are?  The 
only
>software packages I've seen that employ this type of protection scheeme 
is
>adaptive software for the blind.  I understand that Kurvweil used to 
use
>this scheeme but they discontinued using it probably due to prompting, 
and
>perhaps some soul searching on the part of their staff and software
>developers.  It is my understanding  that Window Bridge employs this
>scheeme as well.  Again these are software packages for the blind.  I 
for
>one have not seen this kind of protection scheeme used by any 
developers of
>main-stream software nor do I constantly read front-page headlines of
>software poiracy.  And there is a lot of that going on out there among 
John
>Q. Public.
>
>       This leads me to question whether or not the use of this protection
>scheeme is sending the wrong message to the public about the abilities 
and
>the capibilities of the blind.  Does it assume wrongly that blind 
people
>are more likely to become software poirates and that we can not be 
trusted
>with unprotected software not to mention the inconveeniences this use 
of
>this scheeme can cause some individuals?  What does the use of this
>protection scheeme say to potential employers about the abilities of 
blind
>workers; particularly those looking for work in the computer fields?  
It
>seems to me that in it'sown way the use of this scheeme tells them to 
watch
>out foor their top technical secretes.  They have blind computer 
thieves
>working for them who are likely to distribute closely guarded secretes, 
and
>software to the public at large.  You and i know that this is far from 
the
>truth.  The use of this protection method could in the long run be 
doing us
>more harm than  good.   While it is protecting HJ's business in the 
long
>run it could be hurting employment and educational opportunities for 
the
>users of their products.  It seems to me that if Kurzweil can take the 
leap
>of faith and do away with the use of authorizations on their products 
then
>HJ should take a hard look at this question and consider doing 
likeewise.
>Someone suggested that HJ require that perchasers of their products 
sign a
>contract saying that they will not freely distribute JFW or any other
>packages produced by them. However we should keep in mind that many
>main-stream software packages display a warning notice that potential 
users
>are encouraged to read before they are given access to the software.  
They
>speciffically state that agreeing not to distribute their software  is 
a
>term of the licensing agreement for the use of these packages and it 
simply
>stops there.  Beyond that point it's a matter of trust and respect on 
the
>part of the software manufacturer.    The shareware version of Winzip 
is
>one such package.    The use of a special contract as suggested by my
>friend could havethe same negative effect as would the use of the
>authorization disk.
>
>       While I will not play shoot-em-up up here over this issue I do believe
>that HJ should take a good hard look at this issue and consider an
>alternative that protects their business while at the same time 
promotes a
>positive attitude about the abilities and the capibilities of the 
blind.
>Now that I've aired out my brain I'm going to give the dog some water 
ande
>have some New England clam chowder for brunch.  Talk to you later. 
>
>Peter Donahue
>We're headed for the future and the future's Now!
>"We're headed for the future"
>"Dreamer"
>
>Peter donahue
>
>       
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