On 16/11/2016 19:41, [email protected] wrote:

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My point is that in teory, that's cool but in reality the module-info of 
java.base (or java.sql) declares a lot of 'uses' making the whole idea moot.
To avoid java.base to use 'uses', we need a way to be able to have a way to 
delegate the power of the ServiceLoader to another code, so the other code will 
have to use 'uses'.
If a consumer is making use of an API in java.base and the implementation of that API makes use of services under the covers then it is transparent to the consumer of the API. The consumer of the API shouldn't need to know anything about the "SPI" types and would be very surprising if the user of an API needed to declare `uses` on such types.

In the JDK then I'm only aware of two cases where the consumer passes a service type to an API that doesn't know anything about the service type (the two cases are JVMCI and a utility method in javac). Both of these cases use addUses to get through the hygiene check.

jlink is a bit special in that the user of the tool needs at least some global knowledge when choosing the service provider modules to include in the run time image. As I said, the tool could help more but having it do eager service binding is problematic as it tends to maximize rather than minimize the number of the modules.

-Alan.

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